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Delusions of grandeur - Do you get it???

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Hipqo
Tyde8
#1 - 2015-01-07 07:02:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Hipqo
Hello fellow citizens of new eden :)
This is my first ever forum post, so please be gently (my body is ready though)

Ive played EVE on and off for the past 3 years or so, just returned from a long break and im completely in love with the game again :)
But i keep experiencing something wierd, lets call it "delusions of grandeur", for the sake of clarity, but let me start from the beginning.

About 2 months ago, i returned to EVE and my old capsuleer finally got to feel the non excisting air of space, under his wings again.
Of course i had completely forgot any and every single skill ive trained on this man, so i came back to quite a mess. All frigate and destroyer skills trained to lvl 4, but nothing else basicly... Ok, i can work with it.
On my quest to glory, ive grown fond of missiles, so much i desided to train for a Drake, for lvl 3 missions. I got the Drake, and facerolled missions.
About 2 weeks later i thought to my self "Hmm, i want to do lvl 4 solo soon, what would be a good choice for this?" and for some opscure reason the first thing i thought of was a Tengu.
So basicly i sat down, spend an hour planning a training queue, bought relevant skills and cranked the wheels into action.

The next morning i woke up and the first thing i thought about is "oh god why!!". I jump on EVE to realise ive spend way to much ISK on skills, that i wont be able to use for a very long time, ive sold my Drake and moved all my assest to another region of space, to prepare for lvl4 missions, but i wont be able to fly the damn tengu for at least 2 months and i had no mission boat....

Now im sitting in a Raven, doing lvl4 and wandering why my brain had a meltdown like that, and why it seemed like such a great idea to start Tengu training, before even getting any t2 ship training in.... I have no logical explanation, other then "delusions of grandeur".
This is also not the first time ive encountered this "phenomenon" in EVE, did the same thing with a Dramiel for PVP, which was basicly just ISK down the drain lol....

Does it happen to you veterans? Do you have brain melts, and then sit an hour later going "what have i done....."? Do you ever learn to control the craving for more, in this game? :)
I just love this game so much and i wanna experience as much as possible, but EVE is the only game ive ever known, where patience truly pays off, big time, in the long run and its actually abit difficult getting used to :)

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-01-07 07:24:32 UTC
Hello and welcome to the glorious GD section of the forums- and thank you that your first post wasn't a whine or a cry for nerfs.

I refer to the problem you mentioned as the EVE Paradox: We all try to plan everything carefully to avoid mistakes- and yet, if everything is running smoothly, the game quickly becomes so boring and meaningless that you are very likely to unsubscribe.

ISK and personal success is mostly meaningless in the greater pattern- content is what matters and keeps you hooked to this game.

I found failure to be the best personal content creator.
Embrace your fails, don't be afraid to lose ships or lots of ISKs or potential Skillpoints. Every setback will get you out of your comfort zone and into a much more interesting and fun gameplay.
And fun is the main reason to play videogames, after all.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#3 - 2015-01-07 07:29:50 UTC
I don't plan.

The downside of this is the amount of time I've spent not training skills due to not wanting any new skills right now.

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Hipqo
Tyde8
#4 - 2015-01-07 07:45:15 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Hello and welcome to the glorious GD section of the forums- and thank you that your first post wasn't a whine or a cry for nerfs.

I refer to the problem you mentioned as the EVE Paradox: We all try to plan everything carefully to avoid mistakes- and yet, if everything is running smoothly, the game quickly becomes so boring and meaningless that you are very likely to unsubscribe.

ISK and personal success is mostly meaningless in the greater pattern- content is what matters and keeps you hooked to this game.

I found failure to be the best personal content creator.
Embrace your fails, don't be afraid to lose ships or lots of ISKs or potential Skillpoints. Every setback will get you out of your comfort zone and into a much more interesting and fun gameplay.
And fun is the main reason to play videogames, after all.


You describe so well, why i stopped playing last time :)
I had it all planned out, months of training scheduled in EVEMON and so forth, and it became boring quite fast.
I guess thats why, when i came back, i just started training left and right, to get stuff i wanted. Its "just" a matter of finding the balance i guess, damn tricky though hehe.

Isk will come and go, but skills will stay forever (at least with the new clone system hah)

Crumplecorn wrote:
I don't plan.

The downside of this is the amount of time I've spent not training skills due to not wanting any new skills right now.


Well, either you got over lvl 9000 in all skills, or i am really failing to see your reasons ;) Perhaps there arent any, which would be perfectly acceptable as well!
I just cant help to plan abit, sometimes to much obviously :D

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#5 - 2015-01-07 07:46:08 UTC
I only play drunk, so this happens to me on a weekly basis.
Wake up the next morning: "WTF am I training, where are all my expensive ships and what happened to my wallet?".
Hipqo
Tyde8
#6 - 2015-01-07 07:49:31 UTC
Another Posting Alt wrote:
I only play drunk, so this happens to me on a weekly basis.
Wake up the next morning: "WTF am I training, where are all my expensive ships and what happened to my wallet?".


Oh god, yes..... I know that feeling!
Although i dont drink, i smoke, but i assume the "WTF brain" morning moment is the same :D

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-01-07 08:14:29 UTC
T2 before T3 isn't exactly the requirement, especially if you know very well what will you use said T3 for and it's an environment that is, perhaps, on more predictable end of EVE (missions?). Brilliance of T3 is that all prerequisites for those are pretty much core skills that are very useful to have to lvl 5 regardless of what you are going to fly, be it t1 frig or T3 or faction BS. With T2... Not so much (unless it was changed).

Granted, T3s aren't ideal for L4s as you've pointed out, but if you are going to fly them anyway and don't want to invest in large weapon systems, then why not.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Hipqo
Tyde8
#8 - 2015-01-07 08:24:57 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
T2 before T3 isn't exactly the requirement, especially if you know very well what will you use said T3 for and it's an environment that is, perhaps, on more predictable end of EVE (missions?). Brilliance of T3 is that all prerequisites for those are pretty much core skills that are very useful to have to lvl 5 regardless of what you are going to fly, be it t1 frig or T3 or faction BS. With T2... Not so much (unless it was changed).

Granted, T3s aren't ideal for L4s as you've pointed out, but if you are going to fly them anyway and don't want to invest in large weapon systems, then why not.


My "reasoning" for starting the training aswell Shocked

I wanted the Tengu, to do lvl4, and exploration in the future. Since im in love with missiles, it seemed like the ideal choice(damage vs. agility vs. tank). I will fly one, one day, but i honestly want to be able to fit it with mostly Tech II mods, before i want to risk such an exspensive ship (not to mention SP loss, on death!)

But my "problem" was, i had only Caldari Cruiser to lvl 3, at the time, so it would take me almost an entire month to just be able to sit in the tengu, not to mention subsystem skills, ship skills, etc.

So i decided to go for a raven instead, as my total training time was much much shorter, i basicly just needed to learn Caldari BS and Cruise Missiles, because of my previous ship, the Drake.
And ive always wanted a Marauder, so by going for the Raven, the Golem got abit more within reach. (still pretty damn far...!)

Its both the beauty and downfall of this game, but its why we all love it, i guess.
In EVE choices truly matter and have consequences, you might never have forseen. Smile

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Solecist Project
#9 - 2015-01-07 09:13:05 UTC
Reads like you were stoned.


Do you know the nomeneithergame???

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#10 - 2015-01-07 09:14:24 UTC
About 3 weeks ago a small gang jumped into the system I'm currently staging from. The were reported in alliance chat.

I undocked an Ishtar and warped to the gate to get them agressed. Cos agressed ships cant jump a gate.

I died 40 seconds later.

I still don't know why I decided that was a plan. I was obviously successful, but....
Hipqo
Tyde8
#11 - 2015-01-07 09:14:54 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Reads like you were stoned.


Do you know the nomeneithergame???


Well i was, i usually am.

I cant say i do Cool

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Solecist Project
#12 - 2015-01-07 09:17:46 UTC
Hipqo wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Reads like you were stoned.


Do you know the nomeneithergame???


Well i was, i usually am.

I cant say i do Cool
well that explqins your delusion. You knew that!

Anyhow...


Me neither!

Do you get it??

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#13 - 2015-01-07 09:21:32 UTC
Another Posting Alt wrote:
I only play drunk, so this happens to me on a weekly basis.
Wake up the next morning: "WTF am I training, where are all my expensive ships and what happened to my wallet?".

Weekly? pffft. You're not committed.

Daily or give me your stuff.....Big smile

I'm more of a impulse trainer.

Ooh shiny Recon changes, I better train that...
Ooh I need lasers for my Astero, this Recon V is taking a while, inject small energy weapons...
Aah damn, I want T2 torpedo launchers. Better train Torpedo V now instead.
...
...
...
Hey, why am I 6 months away from Recon V. The change is next week. Damn, reorder my queue.
Hipqo
Tyde8
#14 - 2015-01-07 09:35:36 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Hipqo wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Reads like you were stoned.


Do you know the nomeneithergame???


Well i was, i usually am.

I cant say i do Cool
well that explqins your delusion. You knew that!

Anyhow...


Me neither!

Do you get it??


Well, it kinda doesnt, because its nothing new to me. Ive smoked for many years, because of chronic back pain and its not the weed that does this to me, its the game!

I dont do it in any other game, just here, and i dont really know why hehe.


Hah, what a simple game ;)

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#15 - 2015-01-07 09:43:56 UTC
Hipqo wrote:

Does it happen to you veterans? Do you have brain melts, and then sit an hour later going "what have i done....."? Do you ever learn to control the craving for more, in this game? :)



No we usually just smoke cigars, polish our diamonds and complain about everything, even stuff we like.

Hipqo wrote:

I just love this game so much and i wanna experience as much as possible, but EVE is the only game ive ever known, where patience truly pays off, big time, in the long run and its actually abit difficult getting used to :)


Copious amounts of hard liquor will solve that problem for you. Surely you don't think it's a problem, but to be a bitter vet, everything must be treated like a problem (and solved with booze).



Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Solecist Project
#16 - 2015-01-07 09:47:57 UTC
Alcoholics are bad people.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Hipqo
Tyde8
#17 - 2015-01-07 09:56:45 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Alcoholics are bad people.


Herzog obviously doesnt agree with this statement Big smile

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#18 - 2015-01-07 10:43:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Solecist Project wrote:
Alcoholics are bad people.

No, those are bad alcoholics, the good ones do it in styleCool.

I have woken up one morning wondering why in the name of hell I injected capital energy turret though...I can't ,nor do I plan to fly caps

T3's are great though, probably one of the better drunk ideas because it needs lots of cruiser skills which you're likely going to get much more mileage out of.

Actually thinking about it this is why I can fly a paladin , afterwards I just thought "feck it anyway, I'll just go with it".

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#19 - 2015-01-07 10:56:29 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Ooh shiny Recon changes, I better train that...
I started training them too for the same reason, and so that I would have something training, and because I had recons 4 for some reason which I can't explain since until I looked the other day, I didn't even know what the gallente recons looked like.

With this new unlimited skill queue I can just dump random **** in until I think of what I actually want (which is never), and then suddenly Bang, Recons 5, which will no doubt serve me well considering the last time I flew anything bigger than a frigate in PvP was approximately 2008.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#20 - 2015-01-07 11:01:37 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Ooh shiny Recon changes, I better train that...
I started training them too for the same reason, and so that I would have something training, and because I had recons 4 for some reason which I can't explain since until I looked the other day, I didn't even know what the gallente recons looked like.

With this new unlimited skill queue I can just dump random **** in until I think of what I actually want (which is never), and then suddenly Bang, Recons 5, which will no doubt serve me well considering the last time I flew anything bigger than a frigate in PvP was approximately 2008.

They are mauwldy (say it like it's spelled,should sound like a Dublin accent) looking things, really really ugly imo.

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