Crime & Punishment

I'll just leave this here.

Yes it's a TMC article, and yes it's relevant.

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Normaly no, it should not. But that dosen't mean it can't. Would you prefer that when you attempt to do so the game simply freezes saying "More than one person is required to kill a freighter" ? we could both agree that that would be silly. I would be interested to see what you propose as a solution if I were to say "You are right"



You are right, bumping should be taken away and replaced with ramming so I can ram you with the tip of my Thorax and emplale your ship on my spear of victory

Adapt or Die = Eve

I agree with this.

Also, don't argue with him in Teamspeak when you are drunk. He's usually right.

Let's talk about some things that can happen that make ~underganking~ stupid.

1) Basically every tactic that normally makes freighters hard to kill apply here. Using a scout, using a webber, fitting tank over cargohold, taking multiple trips, talking to the person bumping you instead of instantly logging off like an anti-social player; All of these things make it either not worthwhile, very annoying, very difficult, or nearly impossible for the ganker to kill you.

2) Locking ejected ships makes them unable to be boarded and scooped, instantly shutting down the gankers.

3) If there are so few people ganking, the effectiveness of ECM characters is much stronger. Same thing with logistics, even a terribly fit tech 1 logistics cruiser can fully shut down this method.

4) This method really only works if the pilot logs off or is AFK. Having to keep a character bumped and moving at 500 m/s + and within range of the orca deploying catalysts is a very hard feat to accomplish, so much so that I don't even bother with it because of all the people who avoid ingame content by simply exiting their client.

5) If I cared to haul, I would always be triple bulkheaded and carry under 3 bil, with a Rapier webber. I would never accept 5 billion ISK collateral contracts. I can tell you that every single person I've killed using this method has either been afk or has logged off. Not once have I killed someone actually playing the game. This is an incredibly niche method that really isn't time effective when you can kill a triple expanded freighter with 5 people, when this method requires at least 3. Also, if you have only one ganker, be prepared to be spending literal hours trying to kill a Fenrir or a Charon. Their shield recharge adds several catalysts on.


This encourages Gankers VS. Anti-Ganking gameplay instead of Gankers VS. CCP. This means more content instead of the current cycle of constant nerfs to gankers. Smart play and active opposition can easily defeat this, it is very easy to render this method useless. Remember, nowhere is 'risk free', you shouldn't be safe if you're sitting AFK in an expensive ship, no matter the ship type.

60 second free warp off unaffected by bumping after someone commits an illegal act against you

I care a lot about the NPE...I found Eve very frustrating as a new player....constantly spammed with recruitment offers but lacking any clear direction in the game. I almost quit until I discovered incursions.

I actually would haul stuff if the bumping mechanic were fixed. The bowhead would be a great way to move incursion ships around, so I am directly affected (in a passive sense) by the mechanic.

As far as AFK players getting ganked, I don't much care. The game should be designed so isk cannot be earned while afk. And I detest the whole code rage/tears thing, but indeed I have limited sympathy for folks who go afk and get ganked.

I don't advocate the bumping changes for the fools who afk freighters through uedama...i advocate for people like me who would be at keyboard, but still find that the current mechanics make hauling unduly risky.

Fair enough.