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De-Minmatarization: First Tower Constructed and Operational
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#241 - 2015-01-11 23:33:51 UTC
Don't listen to them, Wendrika. You were right to rid yourself of your Minmatarness, and for doing so you will be rewarded at the Judgement.
Bai'xao Meiyi
#242 - 2015-01-12 02:35:54 UTC
Johanes Beaumonte wrote:
I am certain it will only be a matter of days, if not hours, that the Minmatar capsuleers "come for their people".

*puffs on his cigar, blowing copious amounts of smoke and hot air, nodding to himself*


They'll sit in their little dens, frowning and making loud noises until someone popular makes a fleet.

They'll stomp this the..4th? tower.

Pretend something was accomplished.

Then go back to sitting in their dens, ignoring the root of the problem.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#243 - 2015-01-12 03:39:23 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Don't listen to them, Wendrika. You were right to rid yourself of your Minmatarness, and for doing so you will be rewarded at the Judgement.


So sayeth the fellow who was likely touched by a Matari at a bad place at some point.

Bai'xao Meiyi wrote:
Johanes Beaumonte wrote:
I am certain it will only be a matter of days, if not hours, that the Minmatar capsuleers "come for their people".

*puffs on his cigar, blowing copious amounts of smoke and hot air, nodding to himself*


They'll sit in their little dens, frowning and making loud noises until someone popular makes a fleet.

They'll stomp this the..4th? tower.

Pretend something was accomplished.

Then go back to sitting in their dens, ignoring the root of the problem.


Welcome to a day in life at the Matari side of the Amarr-Matar front.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#244 - 2015-01-12 04:43:07 UTC
Candi LeMew wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I am, personally, very happy in my current racial identity. All I'm saying is that I know two capsuleers who are not.

I always wished I was born Achuran.

The God made you who you are, please enjoy it, as it was His plan.

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Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#245 - 2015-01-12 18:25:11 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
I have to consent with pilot Zenariae. Changing ones race over the issue of identity is treating a symptom rather then a problem - That is, societies passing judgements or imparting concrete expectations based on it. In the end, approaching the issue in this way will only validate those unconstructive cultural notions further.


Well, with the issue of culture and race being conflated so frequently it's not surprising.


I would agree as well; however, while I'm "content" with being racially a Caldari, I would have to be honest that I would give a great deal for genetics that are less of a mess.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#246 - 2015-01-12 18:55:33 UTC
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Gwen Ikiryo wrote:
I have to consent with pilot Zenariae. Changing ones race over the issue of identity is treating a symptom rather then a problem - That is, societies passing judgements or imparting concrete expectations based on it. In the end, approaching the issue in this way will only validate those unconstructive cultural notions further.


Well, with the issue of culture and race being conflated so frequently it's not surprising.


I would agree as well; however, while I'm "content" with being racially a Caldari, I would have to be honest that I would give a great deal for genetics that are less of a mess.


I'm sorry to hear that, suuolo. The truth is that whilst the program has been a good thing, in general, it has let some of it's children down terribly. You are not the first that I've heard this about.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#247 - 2015-01-12 19:20:29 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that, suuolo. The truth is that whilst the program has been a good thing, in general, it has let some of it's children down terribly. You are not the first that I've heard this about.


"Let down" is a gross understatement of what the State has done to me. It's my experiences at the hands of the State that make it so clear to me why monsters like Hydreiga and Nauplius must be opposed. We must always be vigilant to oppose them and set aside petty differences in favor of fighting the real enemy.

In this regard, Pyre disappointed me. Pieter, you and the rest of Pyre are consummate fighters; do not let Pyre's might be deflected from our real enemies by your petty differences and the pointless wars of the empires.

The same could be said for all other organizations that would truly see the Cluster become a better place.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#248 - 2015-01-12 21:24:09 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Candi LeMew wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I am, personally, very happy in my current racial identity. All I'm saying is that I know two capsuleers who are not.

I always wished I was born Achuran.

The God made you who you are, please enjoy it, as it was His plan.

I don't believe in a god. But my boss sometimes talks about this Bob person. I think it's more of a philosophy thing though than a religion.

Anyway, I am happy with myself and my life too. Still wish I was Achuran though. Don't have to be unhappy or dissatisfied to dream of something better.

🍌

Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#249 - 2015-01-12 22:02:18 UTC
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I'm sorry to hear that, suuolo. The truth is that whilst the program has been a good thing, in general, it has let some of it's children down terribly. You are not the first that I've heard this about.


"Let down" is a gross understatement of what the State has done to me. It's my experiences at the hands of the State that make it so clear to me why monsters like Hydreiga and Nauplius must be opposed. We must always be vigilant to oppose them and set aside petty differences in favor of fighting the real enemy.

In this regard, Pyre disappointed me. Pieter, you and the rest of Pyre are consummate fighters; do not let Pyre's might be deflected from our real enemies by your petty differences and the pointless wars of the empires.

The same could be said for all other organizations that would truly see the Cluster become a better place.


Again, I surely can't disagree with you. I remember the days when ideology guided us with some fondness and, despite what the Federation would have people believe, making an isk is not ideology to the Caldari.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#250 - 2015-01-17 12:46:23 UTC
Those, who destroyed this tower without trying to put it into use, you are the same as Mr. Nauplius.

Capsuleers and their games in destruction... you are just wasting resources and lives instead of putting them into something that really matters.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#251 - 2015-01-17 12:55:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
There was NO good use to be made out of that disgusting thing. It was used for nothing more than to destroy lives. Lives that we rescued. Because guess what, at each and every one of these towers, I've been there in a transport, recovering the Butcher's victims. I've brought those people under my care, and have treated them to medical aid, psychological care, reunion with their families, and transport to new lives.

And now you, the little genocidist **** who preaches the same monstrous beliefs as the Butcher, trying to talk about morals to those of us who actually put in effort to save instead of destroy. You're a disgrace to yourself and the Caldari State. How a juvenile delinquent like you got through the capsule program I will never understand.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#252 - 2015-01-17 12:56:53 UTC
Only a brainwashed by gallentean ideals idiot would say that I am a "genocidist" though.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#253 - 2015-01-17 13:04:03 UTC
Whatever you say.
Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#254 - 2015-01-17 17:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jennifer Starfall
Diana Kim wrote:
Those, who destroyed this tower without trying to put it into use, you are the same as Mr. Nauplius.

Capsuleers and their games in destruction... you are just wasting resources and lives instead of putting them into something that really matters.


Such as propagating an agenda of hatred?

If you think Nauplius' Tower is anything other than a weapon of terror, you are quite mistaken. It's rabid, mindless animals like you that have caused the State to rot from within. If you love the State as much as you claim, don't even biomass yourself. I couldn't bear the thought of some innocent being infested by the most basic of amino acids that once had the misfortune to compose you. Just gather up your clones and drop yourself in the nearest star. At least then, you'll have made at least one small positive contribution by providing a moment of warm light on the faces of the children you were a curse to.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#255 - 2015-01-18 01:02:52 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
There was NO good use to be made out of that disgusting thing. It was used for nothing more than to destroy lives. Lives that we rescued. Because guess what, at each and every one of these towers, I've been there in a transport, recovering the Butcher's victims. I've brought those people under my care, and have treated them to medical aid, psychological care, reunion with their families, and transport to new lives.

And now you, the little genocidist **** who preaches the same monstrous beliefs as the Butcher, trying to talk about morals to those of us who actually put in effort to save instead of destroy. You're a disgrace to yourself and the Caldari State. How a juvenile delinquent like you got through the capsule program I will never understand.


Sarah Kernher is more short tempered and foul of speech than she used to be. One upon a time, she deluded herself into thinking she could be like the Chosen, and the wayward Chosen in PIE thought she could be like them.

But she has failed to overcome her Minmatarness, and relapsed into the gutter that is her birthright. This is why slaves should never be freed. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#256 - 2015-01-18 08:59:27 UTC
The Butcher wrote:
Samira Kernher is more short tempered and foul of speech than she used to be.


Because of you. Because of you and monsters like you.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#257 - 2015-01-18 19:41:22 UTC
Nauplius wrote:

Sarah Kernher is more short tempered and foul of speech than she used to be. One upon a time, she deluded herself into thinking she could be like the Chosen, and the wayward Chosen in PIE thought she could be like them.

But she has failed to overcome her Minmatarness, and relapsed into the gutter that is her birthright. This is why slaves should never be freed. Amen. Amarr Victor.

You are right about one thing, not everyone is ready for all the responsibilitys freedom gives. You are the prime example of someone who should still be a slave.
chaosjj
Doomheim
#258 - 2015-01-18 20:46:15 UTC
I am absolutely discusted by the very thought of these towers, how could any sane human bring such suffering to another human? especialy as it is in the name of some fictional magical person in the sky.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#259 - 2015-01-19 01:58:36 UTC
chaosjj wrote:
I am absolutely discusted by the very thought of these towers, how could any sane human bring such suffering to another human? especialy as it is in the name of some fictional magical person in the sky.


Whoever said the guy who erected the tower, with hardly any defenses but two white noise generators, one of which was placed INSIDE the bubble, was sane?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#260 - 2015-01-19 02:47:41 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
Nauplius wrote:

Sarah Kernher is more short tempered and foul of speech than she used to be. One upon a time, she deluded herself into thinking she could be like the Chosen, and the wayward Chosen in PIE thought she could be like them.

But she has failed to overcome her Minmatarness, and relapsed into the gutter that is her birthright. This is why slaves should never be freed. Amen. Amarr Victor.

You are right about one thing, not everyone is ready for all the responsibilitys freedom gives. You are the prime example of someone who should still be a slave.


Or at the very least confined and strictly monitored.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.