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DRONE HORDES

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Ali Virgo
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2011-11-30 06:15:38 UTC
Drone Hordes are further nerfed . The loot is reduced and the whole thing has become a long grinding process. There is no advantage of one having multiple accounts and tring to do one horde anymore.
A carrier can do them as fast as battle ship now that hrdes coem in waves. I wish ccp woul had added more danger to the hordes not make them even more boring.
Hordes dont provide standing, bounty and any form of mods / Faction mods. To where bounty sapce can prove 200 Mil plus worth of mods in some single loot. a Single horde provide 35 mil only in salaveg and refinable compunds.Whish is now further reduced.
Hordes were a good soucre of minerals in past now its at the point it not even worth doing. I can go in bounty space and with less effort make fast isk.
I have access to both types of regions drone sec and bounty. I am just pointing out the un-balance.
I would not like to think that ccp is supporting a certain group of people/region over teh others. there are eve players that just kill mind less rats and make instant isk to buy plex. and then there are people that take time to salavge and refine and build. the ones that actually seed the market. But it seems that way point click making fast isk to meet plex is in favor then people who are builders,
More loot has been added to none drone sec regions while dronesec loot is nerfed (average 700 glossy per horde has be reduced to around 80) . This is unfair. This hints favor over one group of peopel/ region over then the other.
Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#2 - 2011-11-30 07:28:21 UTC
ALI Virgo wrote:
Drone Hordes are further nerfed . The loot is reduced and the whole thing has become a long grinding process. There is no advantage of one having multiple accounts and tring to do one horde anymore.
A carrier can do them as fast as battle ship now that hrdes coem in waves. I wish ccp woul had added more danger to the hordes not make them even more boring.
Hordes dont provide standing, bounty and any form of mods / Faction mods. To where bounty sapce can prove 200 Mil plus worth of mods in some single loot. a Single horde provide 35 mil only in salaveg and refinable compunds.Whish is now further reduced.
Hordes were a good soucre of minerals in past now its at the point it not even worth doing. I can go in bounty space and with less effort make fast isk.I have access to both types of regions drone sec and bounty. I am just pointing out the un-balance.
I would not like to think that ccp is supporting a certain group of people/region over teh others. there are eve players that just kill mind less rats and make instant isk to buy plex. and then there are people that take time to salavge and refine and build. the ones that actually seed the market. But it seems that way point click making fast isk to meet plex is in favor then people who are builders,
More loot has been added to none drone sec regions while dronesec loot is nerfed (average 700 glossy per horde has be reduced to around 80) . This is unfair. This hints favor over one group of peopel/ region over then the other.



Bolded the only relevant bit.

Off you go matey
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-11-30 08:18:31 UTC
Oh well done, you must think you're quite the comic!!!

Of course the OP has a choice in what he/she does, but choosing between non Drone Sanctums and Drone Hordes shouldn't be that big a deal - more personal preference. By nerfing Hordes, CCP is making Hordes untenable and therfore restricting intelligent and reasonable choice - aka it's becoming less of a sandbox.

So how about off YOU go matey.
Steelshine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-11-30 08:22:31 UTC
Sub Prime wrote:
By nerfing Hordes, CCP is making Hordes untenable and therfore restricting intelligent and reasonable choice - aka it's becoming less of a sandbox.

So how about off YOU go matey.


So because Hordes were making 2-3x as much as comparable bounty sanctums per hour, them being nerfed is destroying the sandbox? Roll


ok, got it.
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-30 08:27:33 UTC
Steelshine wrote:
Sub Prime wrote:
By nerfing Hordes, CCP is making Hordes untenable and therfore restricting intelligent and reasonable choice - aka it's becoming less of a sandbox.

So how about off YOU go matey.


So because Hordes were making 2-3x as much as comparable bounty sanctums per hour, them being nerfed is destroying the sandbox? Roll


ok, got it.


Erm, hordes bring in less ISK per hour than Sanctums, so I really don't understand what you're saying.

Also, how exactly does 'it's becoming less of a sandbox' suddenly become 'is destroying the sandbox'?

WHy don't you foxtrot oscar and go troll somewhere else, pubbie.
Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#6 - 2011-11-30 08:59:17 UTC
Sub Prime wrote:
Oh well done, you must think you're quite the comic!!!

Of course the OP has a choice in what he/she does, but choosing between non Drone Sanctums and Drone Hordes shouldn't be that big a deal - more personal preference. By nerfing Hordes, CCP is making Hordes untenable and therfore restricting intelligent and reasonable choice - aka it's becoming less of a sandbox.

So how about off YOU go matey.




I am indeed quite the comic.

My main in Chris rock Blink


I was in null when the last nerf hit. Guess what? I moved to somewhere I could continue to make isk. I didn't whine, whinge or gripe on the forums about how some changes affected ME and have some muppet come to my defence when some obvious choices were pointed out. I just grew a pair and moved on.

Post with your main too buddy. Sub prime sounds about right as a name choice for you
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-11-30 09:42:35 UTC
1. Alas, my corporation doesn't allow posting with mains on these forums (all others, fine) as they're often flamed and considered similar to smack talk in local.

2. Below is a timeline based on your logic:

a) A change is made which is unfair and detrimental to all members of my corp and alliance.
b) I decide not to highlight this change and try to get it either reverted back or altered.
c) I decide to move myself to another location which wasn't affected by the change.

Below is a timeline based on my logic.

a) A change is made which is unfair and detrimental to all members of my corp and alliance.
b) I decide to highlight this change and try to get it either reverted back or altered.
c) TBC.

You see my wanna be comedian, far from being me me me, I'm actually doing something for not just me, but my corp and alliance buddies. Also, I'm trying to change something that I consider unfair and detrimental to 1000's of players.

As far as 'growing some' is concerned, I presume as you infer that you have some, that you mean grow some 'idiot cells'. And no, I'd rather not.
Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#8 - 2011-11-30 09:58:42 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Sub Prime wrote:
1. Alas, my corporation doesn't allow posting with mains on these forums (all others, fine) as they're often flamed and considered similar to smack talk in local.

2. Below is a timeline based on your logic:

a) A change is made which is unfair and detrimental to all members of my corp and alliance.
b) I decide not to highlight this change and try to get it either reverted back or altered.
c) I decide to move myself to another location which wasn't affected by the change.

Below is a timeline based on my logic.

a) A change is made which is unfair and detrimental to all members of my corp and alliance.
b) I decide to highlight this change and try to get it either reverted back or altered.
c) TBC.

You see my wanna be comedian, far from being me me me, I'm actually doing something for not just me, but my corp and alliance buddies. Also, I'm trying to change something that I consider unfair and detrimental to 1000's of players.

As far as 'growing some' is concerned, I presume as you infer that you have some, that you mean grow some 'idiot cells'. And no, I'd rather not.



1. do you always do as you are told? Its a game not a job. If I was your CeO I'd just have you feable minions work harder to make up the shortfall

2. Is an answer based on your drivvel and has no actual relevance to anything I may have made comment on.
a is for *snip*
b is for *snip*
dont even start me on C

Please do not evade the profanity filter. Spitfire

I don't see the OP making comments on my post or indeed career choice.

We could return inane comments all day but I for one, am busy earning iskies that were not yet nerfed. ( I'll let you figure it out for yourself).
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-11-30 10:08:04 UTC
1. It actually doesn't really bother me as I'm not that anal about alt/main posting.
2. LOL, it was actually VERY relevant to what you said, but as it showed you for what you are, you decided to say it wasn't relevant - go figure
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-11-30 12:53:34 UTC
I agree with the OP.

Drone sites need some CCP love.



What I'd really like to know is when did 'Missions and Complexes' channel turn into 'General Discussion' channel?
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#11 - 2011-11-30 14:05:35 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I agree with the OP.

Drone sites need some CCP love.



What I'd really like to know is when did 'Missions and Complexes' channel turn into 'General Discussion' channel?


No they don't. Not everything needs to be equal. Inequality breeds competition and thus conflict. This is good for eve.

Drone regions need to remain the garbage zone of Eve.
Sub Prime
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-11-30 14:45:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Sub Prime
Dreddit, take your goon mentality somewhere else. It would be great if somebody from TEST or Goons actually came up with a productive post every now and then instead of stoking your own political fire. (Political = childish one upmanship)

EDIT: What I find amusing is the bitching done by you lot regarding SC's. LOL, you're happy to **** off others but wimper like brats when it happens to you.
Takeshi Zakharov
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-11-30 15:28:57 UTC
Hordes were giving an uneven level of ISK in comparison to other types of sites. It was fixed?

Not every single mechanic and event in this goddamn game should be the same, there's a reason why the drone regions are like they are.

Take your tears elsewhere
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#14 - 2011-11-30 15:38:55 UTC
Sub Prime wrote:
Dreddit, take your goon mentality somewhere else. It would be great if somebody from TEST or Goons actually came up with a productive post every now and then instead of stoking your own political fire. (Political = childish one upmanship)

EDIT: What I find amusing is the bitching done by you lot regarding SC's. LOL, you're happy to **** off others but wimper like brats when it happens to you.


My apologies but what part of my post irritated your rectal region to such a degree that you would make generalizing statements based on my corp/alliance in addition to bringing up a topic I have no personal stake in?

You seem rather butthurt my friend. If you'd like, feel free to send me 50 million isk and I can submit a complaint with our butthurt department on your behalf. We usually have a 1 business day turn around for investigation and assessment of the situation.

Thanks and have a nice day.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-11-30 21:37:49 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Emperor Salazar wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I agree with the OP.

Drone sites need some CCP love.



What I'd really like to know is when did 'Missions and Complexes' channel turn into 'General Discussion' channel?


No they don't. Not everything needs to be equal. Inequality breeds competition and thus conflict. This is good for eve.

Drone regions need to remain the garbage zone of Eve.


Heh, that's backwards. That just makes everyone congregate in one specific area and forget about the rest of the Eve Universe. That is counterproductive to CCP's vision.


Exploration sites that are the same level DO need to be equal. If not, it makes the game unbalanced and soon becomes an exploit.
Spineker
#16 - 2011-11-30 21:58:02 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I agree with the OP.

Drone sites need some CCP love.



What I'd really like to know is when did 'Missions and Complexes' channel turn into 'General Discussion' channel?



They do it here and every where else on these forums because they actually think they are cool talking like they do to people from their grandma's garage. They know nothing of honest debate because they grew up debating on the internet were they are safe from rapid and generally painful retailiatory reaction to their stupidity and words. in other words they never had thier ass totally kicked for running their jaw..

In reality they are rather dumb and look even dumber when they type.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#17 - 2011-11-30 23:13:31 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
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Heh, that's backwards. That just makes everyone congregate in one specific area and forget about the rest of the Eve Universe. That is counterproductive to CCP's vision.


Exploration sites that are the same level DO need to be equal. If not, it makes the game unbalanced and soon becomes an exploit.



.....wat? Have you seen drone regions? Its renter haven over there. Population is dense as hell.

Leave the sites as garbage so people that are willing to settle for those continue to do them while everyone else avoids them and goes after stuff worth more.
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
#18 - 2011-12-01 04:20:47 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Emperor Salazar wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
I agree with the OP.

Drone sites need some CCP love.



What I'd really like to know is when did 'Missions and Complexes' channel turn into 'General Discussion' channel?


No they don't. Not everything needs to be equal. Inequality breeds competition and thus conflict. This is good for eve.

Drone regions need to remain the garbage zone of Eve.


Heh, that's backwards. That just makes everyone congregate in one specific area and forget about the rest of the Eve Universe. That is counterproductive to CCP's vision.


Exploration sites that are the same level DO need to be equal. If not, it makes the game unbalanced and soon becomes an exploit.



O but don't you know? We already do that in high sec so it's not realy a problem here.Bear

Is it a rock point a lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship point a lazer at it and profit. I dont see any problems here.

Callous Jade
Dockturnal Bromance
#19 - 2011-12-01 17:12:26 UTC
People still pve in nullsec? Seriously tho, why dont you guys take your supers and go capture some better space? Oh wait...
DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
#20 - 2011-12-01 23:52:31 UTC  |  Edited by: DJWiggles
ALI Virgo wrote:
More loot has been added to none drone sec regions while dronesec loot is nerfed (average 700 glossy per horde has be reduced to around 80) . This is unfair. This hints favor over one group of peopel/ region over then the other.


are you sure your doing the same anoms that i am as well im still getting up to 500 glossy per anom, i think you need to clean your eyes or something >.<

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