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Concord Fraud Department - Anti scam idea
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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#21 - 2015-01-02 23:05:52 UTC
Jdsaf wrote:
Got scammed in my second week, with money from a PLEX sale Oops. Learned a lesson, won't happen again. Scamming is essential for the "gritty" atmosphere of eve where content is player driven. -1

Not even that, but it is essential that any attempts to counter scamming are done with the same level of tools as the scams themselves.

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Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#22 - 2015-01-02 23:14:46 UTC
Unnecessary. The only tool you need to avoid being scammed lies between your ears.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury

It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-01-02 23:15:14 UTC
tl;dr install a mechanic preventing / hindering scamming. With that noted sir, I am going have to ask you to leave eve and never return. Yes, can I have your stuff?
Varyah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-01-02 23:34:24 UTC
You should know that people that fall for scams have often a very distinct psychological profile that leads to them getting scammed over and over even though you would expect that these people learn from such mistakes; well, they don't in this case. So if you got scammed once it is to be expected that you get scammed again.

And even with such reporting and stuff you won't get rid of scammers because there are always people out there that are vulnerable to scams and always people that want to take advantage of others.

At least since it is out in the open and not punished there is a chance that such scam victims hear about it.


I guess from a psychological point of view player interaction in EVE would be far more interesting to study than in any other game Twisted
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-01-03 01:20:22 UTC
Komi Toran wrote:
Wait wait wait. So, if I get the names of my competition in Jita, I can use all of my NPC/1-man corp alts to report them as scammers, and hurt their market privileges? No, this won't be abused at all.

Basically, you want to impose a system on all players to protect the drunk, the gullible, and the greedy. I really don't see why the player base needs to be punished to cater to those.

almost as bad as the archeage "get 5 people to use a report ability on a player that is totally cheating (no really, we trust youll only use this on cheaters) and they instantly become attackable for free so you can loot their goods", yeah it came with a "abuse is bannable" clause, but it was never enforced

letting players "rate" or in any way have their hands in the judicial section of EVE is asking for exploitation

(again, ArcheAge, was in a guild war against another group, and because we were the same faction, we got "crime points" for fighting, death meant court then prison for anywhere from 15 minutes to 8 hours being locked out of the game, and because the other faction was bigger what did they do? spam the jury box so every trial was ran by their guild, so all their guys got off free and ported back into the fights, while our guild was sentenced macimum jail taim for everything every time, Trion's response? "working as intended")

so again, hell no
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#26 - 2015-01-03 02:53:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
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letting players "rate" or in any way have their hands in the judicial section of EVE is asking for exploitation

I would extend this to pretty much every single "public review" application out there as well.

It's pretty easy to trash your competitors if you know enough people... and make your own business look good.
This is so endemic in fact that sites like Yelp offer up a "monthly service" to retaurants/clubs/service establishments to surpress bad reviews and write their own reviews in support of the place (yes, this is an actual thing... yes, it is perfectly legal... it is part of the reason I got out of the industry).

How did you Veterans start?
Daide Vondrichnov
French Drop-O-Panache
Snuffed Out
#27 - 2015-01-03 05:10:21 UTC
Useless.

How about no ?
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-01-03 05:54:36 UTC
Before you waste energy coming up with the finer details of the punishment system, you need to give us an alpha release of your punishment detection system and let us help you develop it. You need an effective method of determining who is a scammer (including peer-reviewed) before you can talk about what punishments to dole out.

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Bob Maths
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-01-04 13:38:27 UTC
How can I not troll this feature of peer-reviewed publication?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#30 - 2015-01-04 13:42:28 UTC
aww some one got lied to in jita local didn't they

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-01-04 15:05:41 UTC
Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:
Unnecessary. The only tool you need to avoid being scammed lies between your ears.



most scams are pretty much obvious really. And unraveled if you ask one major question:

Why is this player selling this stuff for such a low price when they could drop it on buy orders and make more isk than they are offering in the sales pitch they have.





Iain Cariaba
#32 - 2015-01-04 17:58:21 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:
Unnecessary. The only tool you need to avoid being scammed lies between your ears.



most scams are pretty much obvious really. And unraveled if you ask one major question:

Why is this player selling this stuff for such a low price when they could drop it on buy orders and make more isk than they are offering in the sales pitch they have.

But... but... but... that would require Shocked thinking for myself!!! Shocked

Twisted
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