EVE General Discussion

1.0 systems are not, per se, Rookie Systems.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems

There you can get into trouble if you are not extremely careful. Any "beginner" outside the rookie systems should know what they are getting into.



In my experience, talking to other miners is tough. The majority of them are AFK, or not interested in socialising. The clanging silence of local is one thing that moved me in this direction. I'm not a fan of talking to myself.

Well I happen to live in Null and I find CODE's tactics silly and yea it's a bit cowardly. Doesn't mean its not fun but its hardly a high skilled task.

The CODE. represent a telling moment of eve history but like a ganker alliances they will fail...and I will explain

the thing that will destroy them is...internal politics and isk paranoia... it is always the way

Ganker alliances draw fairly chilled independent players that shoot stuff and don't take this game too seriously....then the isk rolls in and their successes begin to pile up.

When this happens in real life,people change, and when their is serious isk/money to be made, A ecosystem of paranoia will become apparent.

This draws a type of ganker that is not really that charismatic and basically want to make the system official so they can feed their god complex and this irritates the original founder who has had to avoid these people most of his/her life... and they will back away in some form ...this has already happened

The Godlings within the code have been pissing off their chilled F.Cs simply by making constant demands, and too a group of space anarchists ..this is a bad idea

the originaly chilled player base mentioned above has little to no tolerance for Godling player because simply they are a buzz kill and will simply disappear to the next best option removing the funny chill atmosphere that code. needs to make them the more attractive gank option for roams

-it does not require a attack on their assets this would only serve to unify them and has done so
-character assassination is unnecessary because most of them conceal their real toon in order to just troll others game play and their gank toon are already beyond recovery.
-marmite and other forces connected to the white knight initiative have been unsuccessful in their elimination of them for the first reason stated above


Code. could recover but it would require a substantial rebellion among its lower players to knock out the corrupt head

But unless this happens, code. will fall and another will take its place this is the way in R.L as it is the way of EVE

o7
Vapor

If I was a miner I'd want for the dedicated group of suicide gankers to not want to gank me. I'd adhere to the new Halaima code of Conduct.

That said, the only reason I can ever fit mining lasers is because mining is a default skill these days or something.

If miners point at codies, the miners are right.


Yawn.

Using an umbrella when it might rain doesnt make me scared of rain.




Well miners who are not smart enough to use basic ag meassures , can adhere to this "halaima-stuff".


But thank you for letting us know what a though guy/girl you are.


More flawed logic.
You put on your closes with a fork?
One does not need to "socialise" with you guys.
Or with those scammers at the trade systems.
If you want talk to someone, talk to friends.
Oh! You do not have friends?
Sure its the others fault, not yours!

Another Idea:
Fly in a group.
Have a friend with you that bumps away anything, that not belongs to your group. This will eliminate the "warpto" point and make ganking much harder. Of course the other ag points still apply.

Also you can anoy of your "competition" if you are mining good stuff.

As i said, i am not a "white knight".

No, if someone out there wants you bad enough they can find you. (See locator agents.) But there are steps you can take to mitigate the risk of getting ganked.

Bunch of ways to avoid this:

1) Put retards on a watch list that alert you when they logon and show up in local as bad guys.

2) Join a fleet of miners to get boosts. (I.E. don't solo mine if you don't have to.)

3) Find an industrial corporation that operates in low/null sec. Get better stuff out there anyways. Most of
CODE/MARMITE dare not fly out there.

4) Get into a mining ship that has some tank to it so you can survive the gank attempt long enough for concord to show up.
A skiff with descent shield and drone skills would be a plus. Tech 1 mining ships are basically eggshells with an engine
and ore bay. Some people are crazy when it comes to ship fits too and go for mining yield when they are solo mining
and should be going for survivability. Remember, you got to get the ore to the station to enjoy the benefits.
Can't do that when your ship explodes.

5) If they do gank you, sell the kill right so everyone can have a chance of ganking them back.

6) Keep your ship aligned to a safe point in system. CONTROL+B is your friend for making safe points.

7) NEVER AFK/BOT MINE!!!!

8) If you cannot get rid of these people, there is always the option of getting your hands on blueprints (through market,
contracts, or auctions), building the mining ships and modules, and then putting it all up on the market. If you can't gank
'em, try to make money off of them.

This should help out.

Unless it's been said already: CODE can do what they want to do because nobody stops them. There's little stopping you from gathering support and going against them either - you just need to make sure you know what you're doing because they love to dispose of wannabe "anti-CODE" organizations and post about it on their blog.

I like how the die hard rebels in this thread basically say the counter to CODE. is following the advice written in the New Halaima Code of Conduct.

Perhaps you should tell us where you are so that we may mine in safety too.