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Torn Aele
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-12-30 03:45:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Torn Aele
Hello MD I'm looking for an investor(s) to expand my trading abilities. I would like 2B to continue trading a larger volume of more expensive items. I know I'm new and I'm not going to get 2b so if anyone is interested in investing 200m or so it would be much appreciated


Loan Status
Filled


Repayment Schedule
Jan 31 240m [paid 1-28-15]
Feb 28 240m
Mar 31 240m + 2b principal

Requested Terms
Principal: 200 million increments up to 2 billion
Interest: 12% per month

Duration: Decided by investor
Collateral: None

Purpose of Loan
Increase trade capacity

Outstanding Debt
None

Debt Expansion
I will not take out any more debt until this loan is repaid or if an investor wishes to expand the original loan.
If an investor wishes to increase the amount over the 2billion originally asked for i will inform other investors of the change and give them the chance to back out if they feel the risk is to great.

Past Loan History
None

About Me

I started trading earlier this year, made a new account after playing for about a month and sold the plex for start up capitol and traded for a few weeks. I lost my job and quit playing eve till recently. Now I'm working in the field again and have spare time to play but only a cell phone connection to play on. This makes PvP/PvE far from enjoyable and I've been trading heavily while my SP keeps growing. The .01isking has become tiresome and I'm moving into more valuable items and items with so much volume orders fill most times without updating. I'm mostly region trading buying cheap enough to ship/undercut and still turn a nice profit. The only drawback is my time to play is greater than the isk I have to trade on.


Screen cap of evementat overview

Screen cap of evementat graph

Screen cap Eve Mogul profit page
I know eve mogul is not 100% accurate, it doesn't account for taxes and shipping costs but gives a decent picture of trade activity

Wallet/Journal APIs

3986652

Verification Code: FTzz8XxTvFqaubkPHs61xljsDRDufOsiv0vxDTcF10Q8z4lRTQ5NjhAcQ9LJAyNG

3986726

Verification Code: zrjS27T0VX46FxT4NzmeDq8GM1QGm5o9zsGpd9ejMmfhkRoTt1KNskKGNNMaUbNy

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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#2 - 2014-12-30 04:04:55 UTC
Would like pledge 20b

@JerryTPepridge
Torn Aele
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-12-30 04:27:55 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Would like pledge 20b


10x to much maybe in a year
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#4 - 2014-12-30 04:55:14 UTC
You did good following the guide, but you need to have your own Corp for it to work. No reason not to be in a corp as a trader, more orders, more contracts etc.

@JerryTPepridge
Herdo
Radix Financial
#5 - 2014-12-30 05:35:56 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
You did good following the guide, but you need to have your own Corp for it to work. No reason not to be in a corp as a trader, more orders, more contracts etc.



I was under the impression that corporate orders take the place of your normal orders. So if you place a corporate order, it uses up one of your order slots.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#6 - 2014-12-30 05:46:30 UTC
Herdo wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
You did good following the guide, but you need to have your own Corp for it to work. No reason not to be in a corp as a trader, more orders, more contracts etc.



I was under the impression that corporate orders take the place of your normal orders. So if you place a corporate order, it uses up one of your order slots.


probably, i use corp orders to buy speculation stuff so it sorted to market deliveries, didn't notice if it eats one of mine but it makes sense that it does, either way, 1 man corp is better for traders.

@JerryTPepridge
Herdo
Radix Financial
#7 - 2014-12-30 05:54:49 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Herdo wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
You did good following the guide, but you need to have your own Corp for it to work. No reason not to be in a corp as a trader, more orders, more contracts etc.



I was under the impression that corporate orders take the place of your normal orders. So if you place a corporate order, it uses up one of your order slots.


probably, i use corp orders to buy speculation stuff so it sorted to market deliveries, didn't notice if it eats one of mine but it makes sense that it does, either way, 1 man corp is better for traders.


Huh, that's a good idea. I've been trying to find a reason to form a corp for my alt traders and I think I just found one.

Thanks.
Makhpella
Bad Taste.
#8 - 2014-12-30 11:47:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Makhpella
Torn Aele wrote:
Collateral: None

Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Would like pledge 20b


/thread
Cista2
EVE Museum
#9 - 2014-12-30 12:52:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Cista2
OP; offering direct API access for prospective investors is one way for new people to get into the bond selling business.

My channel: "Signatures" -
Torn Aele
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-12-30 15:04:07 UTC
Cista2 wrote:
OP; offering direct API access for prospective investors is one way for new people to get into the bond selling business.


Would an an API of just my journal be sufficient? It shows all isk moving on my toons without giving away the items I'm trading in.
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#11 - 2014-12-30 15:25:42 UTC
Torn Aele wrote:
Would an an API of just my journal be sufficient? It shows all isk moving on my toons without giving away the items I'm trading in.

Think about the risk taken by anyone investing in you.

Now consider the risk you take by temporarily explosing your API to scrutiny.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#12 - 2014-12-30 15:30:40 UTC
Torn Aele wrote:
Cista2 wrote:
OP; offering direct API access for prospective investors is one way for new people to get into the bond selling business.


Would an an API of just my journal be sufficient? It shows all isk moving on my toons without giving away the items I'm trading in.


an api is like throwing a child sand bucket full of water on a house fire. (pointless)

BUT it does give some investor some ~security~ (even though those screenies in your OP are hard to fake.)

"hey look he is still trading" "phew least thats on track, perhaps he will return my 2b isk with interest after all"

giving API to your investor won't hurt your ~trade secrets~, coz investors don;t actually trade ;) why would any investor do that.

@JerryTPepridge
Torn Aele
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-12-30 15:49:23 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Torn Aele wrote:
Cista2 wrote:
OP; offering direct API access for prospective investors is one way for new people to get into the bond selling business.


Would an an API of just my journal be sufficient? It shows all isk moving on my toons without giving away the items I'm trading in.


an api is like throwing a child sand bucket full of water on a house fire. (pointless)

BUT it does give some investor some ~security~ (even though those screenies in your OP are hard to fake.)

"hey look he is still trading" "phew least thats on track, perhaps he will return my 2b isk with interest after all"

giving API to your investor won't hurt your ~trade secrets~, coz investors don;t actually trade ;) why would any investor do that.



Edited Journal APIs to OP, investors may or may not take what items I'm trading from APIs but they are not the only ones browsing the forums and looking at my API. Also as i stated originally i don't expect to get 2b i put that there as a ceiling for the loan and put up 200m bonds(i guess not sure on the investment lingo). 2b would allow me to move more goods and diversify getting better average returns but 200m would also allow me to station trade some more until i have 1-1.5b liquid isk to move more good from another hub and turn a profit.

I have roughly at the moment
2.277B in buy orders
677m in escrow 1.6b to cover
3.8b in sell orders
500m liquid

When i hit around 1.5B isk I'll look through the markets find items with large price difference a decent history of selling at that price difference and buy what I believe I can move in a day or two and make a profit.

Would 6% every 2 weeks be better than 12% every 4?
Torn Aele
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-12-31 17:42:54 UTC
Loan filled

Repayment Schedule
Jan 31 240m
Feb 28 240m
Mar 31 240m + 2b principal
Cheese Crackers
Malfurion Mining
#15 - 2015-01-04 17:14:02 UTC
By who? Yourself??
Torn Aele
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-01-28 20:20:09 UTC
First loan interest payment of 240m isk paid.
Jan VanRijkdom
House VanRijkdom Trading Conglomerate
#17 - 2015-01-29 07:30:57 UTC
Anyone to confirm they filled? Would be interesting to track.

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Ruvin
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-01-29 09:16:50 UTC
there is his wallet API and he payed the interest , just check it for youreself ?

Damn for being in MD and traders youre quite lasy .

TIP , in the transaction he even wrote "Loan interest payed" so its easier for ya to find it .

Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#19 - 2015-01-29 12:40:29 UTC
I loaned Torn the 2 b he requested.

Has been very professional so far, paid January's interest payment today (3 days early) stating he might be busy this weekend.

No regrets so far.

Not today spaghetti.
Jan VanRijkdom
House VanRijkdom Trading Conglomerate
#20 - 2015-01-29 18:40:42 UTC
Ruvin wrote:
there is his wallet API and he payed the interest , just check it for youreself ?

Damn for being in MD and traders youre quite lasy .

TIP , in the transaction he even wrote "Loan interest payed" so its easier for ya to find it .


Yes.... Or or or...stay with me, the person who filled the loan could simply post, as he did so graciously.

It's obvious it's not that important or I would've looked it up, but that would be far too much trouble.

In all I was just curious and wanted to follow the fulfillment. Go back to grumpytown. P

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