EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello,
I was thinking of starting a skill plan for incursions, and hoping to get the minimum fit for wtm in 30 days from now.
The thing is, i dont know which pirate bs i want to get in, both have cool looks and great dps.
BUT, some told me vindicator have squichy shields and are more vulnerable than machariels, and others said that vindicators are more liked by incursions fc and are more useful.
So my questions are:
What are your thoughts about this?
What do you advise?
And
Why ( so i can understand the motives

i only need to train the guns, all the support skills are at 3/4 already and gallente bs trained at 4, so 30 days more to be able to get a so so mach or vindi pilot.

a mach with autocanons or artillery ?? which is better (more likely to get picked faster)

When I saw the sentence Vindicator is more vulnerable than a mac I almost lost it. Then I realized he was talking about Incursions and those fools shield fit the Vindi's. Disgusting...

Nope,

I have near perfect skills for everything subcap and indy.

Kane AMA incoming...

You won't have 90% webs in the OP's timeframe, you will at best have 84% (60% from the web, *1.4 from level 4 BS skill). The difference between 90% and 84% webs is extreme.

OP - If you want to experiment with incursions, look into tech 1 battleships. They won't financially cripple you when you lose one to a mongrel like me.

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Mach or Vindi does more dps in your opinion?
I was just referring to the global scale (All V) for those numbers :p
Do people actually suicide gank incursion ships? I thought Mission Runners were your(highsec pvprs) preferred target because Incursion boats will have logi unless you hit them while they're travelling, but then they have sentry guns on their side and you'd probably need to have the fleet pre prepared (although I suppose if you're doing it you would have the fleet anyway)

The Machariels and Vindicators have almost the same requirements as far as Warp to Me incursions goes, being they're both Gallente/Minmatar pirate faction. Aside from the guns, of course.

The biggest difference is that you're going to run into more cap issues with the Vindis and need better shield tank skills to reach the minimum requirements. As a Machariel pilot, I don't have a lot of issues getting into WTM fleets, but Vindis do get picked up a lot faster. 1200 Mach's also need more in the way of powergrid, so Advanced Weapon Management to at least III for meta and Powergrid to V is a must for it. Autocannon Machs are taken, but they chew through ammo very quickly, so make sure to have a lot on standby if you go that route.

I don't really know what other incursion groups require, but I'd check them out and see what they use if you want to run with them. Some of them might even have skill queues you can look at and download. If you're a brand-new pilot, I can guarantee that even the newest newbro fit is going to take more than 30 days.

Been some time I ran my last Incursion, but I was under the impression that Vindis got picked up a lot faster mostly because Machs were as common as confetti whereas Vindis were a lot rarer.

Still, both of them were left in the dust when it came to the demand for Logis. Of course, flying a Logi requires a different skillset altogether, not to mention absolute reliability of the pilot. Also, good Incursion groups would only go with trusted and tested Logibros considering how dependant the whole fleet is on them....