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Rainbows! Ponies! GUI needs a colour toggle!
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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2015-07-07 18:03:06 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
You have to find the like button entry in your adblock list and remove it, apparently adblock plus blocks the like button sometimes.
I only get the option to block it.

You have to remove the entry from the list.

I don't remember the exact details or what entry it is, but I believe it was ISD Ezwal who gave me the details.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

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Little Miss Oface
Repo Distribution and Salvage
#102 - 2015-07-12 14:08:28 UTC
The left hand bar icons look like they were ripped from windows 10, same with station ones... they need some sort of colour to differentiate from each other. My eyesight is getting worse as I get older, not better Blink. The overview icons on the other hand I just find confusing especially when the overview is busy. Bad all round especially for a returning player.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2015-07-12 21:13:59 UTC
Little Miss Oface wrote:
The overview icons on the other hand I just find confusing especially when the overview is busy. Bad all round especially for a returning player.

It's a bit of a learning curve on those, but I think they have a good method going. Triangles pointing up are ships, and all the different kinds show different kinds of ships. It's nice how you can now tell shuttles from frigates from destroyers, or cruisers from battlecruisers from HACs from HICs from Recons, etc. Triangles pointing down are wrecks. Everything else looks a bit chaotic so it'll take time getting used to it. It'd be nice if they had an option to have fewer categories, and used generalized icons for small, medium, large, or capital ships, deployable modules, LCOs, etc. That way those of us who prefer a simpler overview or a more shallow learning curve could have that.

But I like the new overview. I'd like it better with colours, but I'll take what I can get!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#104 - 2015-07-13 18:18:49 UTC
wait - the overview icons are different for different T2's of the same size? why not for the NPC's?

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#105 - 2015-07-13 18:50:55 UTC
If you're trying to get a message across to CCP, it might be worth stepping back and looking at what they're trying to do, then make your argument relative to that.

Let's say that CCP knows full well that color + shape is more easily resolved than shape alone. Let's say that CCP knows that color draws the eye. As numerous posters have correctly asserted, these are not obscure or esoteric truths. So where are they putting color? Increasingly, in the viewport. The NEOCOM is desaturated because they want it to essentially disappear when you're not looking at it, but be accessible to peripheral vision (which is color-blind) when you need it. In other words, their changes make sense if you assume that you're mostly looking at the viewport and bringing up and dismissing windows as necessary.

Once you see that, the counter-argument becomes obvious: there are lots of people who play the interface while zoomed out so far that the viewport is essentially black and white (because of the tactical overlay). If you're one of those people, then changes that de-emphasize the part of the game that you want to pay attention to, while drawing your attention to parts of the game that you don't pay attention to, will be annoying and counterproductive.

If that sounds like you, maybe you could try approaching CCP that way. Instead of calling them idiots, ask them how they will accommodate the way you play the game. Because it's true that right now pretty much any power player has so many windows up that they can barely see the space around them.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#106 - 2015-07-13 19:00:17 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
... The NEOCOM is desaturated because they want it to essentially disappear when you're not looking at it, ...
As interesting a concept as that is. Practically, the user interface is slower and more annoying to interact with.

Note that I am asking for a *toggle* to be able to turn on colour. (This means that for everyone else the UI will look exactly as it does now.)

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#107 - 2015-07-13 19:02:46 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Dersen Lowery wrote:
... The NEOCOM is desaturated because they want it to essentially disappear when you're not looking at it, ...
As interesting a concept as that is. Practically, the user interface is slower and more annoying to interact with.

Note that I am asking for a *toggle* to be able to turn on colour. (This means that for everyone else the UI will look exactly as it does now.)


I know, and what I'm trying to say is that it might be useful to explain the reason for your suggestion is that you disagree with the direction CCP wants to go. You want the UI up in your face, at least optionally.

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I voted in CSM X!
Jenshae Chiroptera
#108 - 2015-07-13 19:12:07 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
... you disagree with the direction CCP wants to go. ....
I don't.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
PhantomMajor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2015-07-14 01:01:49 UTC
Not a fan of this dull monochromatic iconography
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2015-07-14 03:10:48 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
wait - the overview icons are different for different T2's of the same size? why not for the NPC's?

I believe it is but I'm not certain. As for the NPCs: likely because they don't have defined types even when they appear to. I'm also not certain of this, but I believe that NPC interceptors and destroyers count as NPC frigates.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Jenshae Chiroptera
#111 - 2015-08-15 23:30:33 UTC
Still annoyed every day.
Still wanting a pretty small option to add colour.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#112 - 2015-08-16 01:16:50 UTC
I like how the interface motif changes to match the ship I'm in. It's not colors on the overview, but it's a step in the right direction nonetheless.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Lim Hiaret
Hiaret Family
#113 - 2015-08-16 10:52:07 UTC
I came to see Rainbows and Ponies. None on the first two pages. How can I stand that disappointment now?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#114 - 2015-08-16 14:59:06 UTC
Lim Hiaret wrote:
I came to see Rainbows and Ponies. None on the first two pages. How can I stand that disappointment now?
Same way I am handling this new GUI P

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2015-08-18 05:28:43 UTC
Lim Hiaret wrote:
I came to see Rainbows and Ponies. None on the first two pages. How can I stand that disappointment now?

Cast your vote!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Jenshae Chiroptera
#116 - 2015-08-18 13:43:52 UTC
Big smile

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Horus V
The Destined
#117 - 2015-08-18 15:25:15 UTC
+1 for colours

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Lim Hiaret
Hiaret Family
#118 - 2015-08-18 16:13:38 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Lim Hiaret wrote:
I came to see Rainbows and Ponies. None on the first two pages. How can I stand that disappointment now?

Cast your vote!


Big smile

I didn't see that ending coming.
Horus V
The Destined
#119 - 2015-08-26 16:57:56 UTC
Seriously I can't get used to new UI. To my eyes all icons are same in the neocom and station services. Before i didnt even looked at it and never missed a click. Sad

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#120 - 2015-08-26 17:00:30 UTC
Horus V wrote:
Seriously I can't get used to new UI. To my eyes all icons are same in the neocom and station services. Before i didnt even looked at it and never missed a click. Sad
I know. Cry
I am wishing a fan boy had started this thread. I think it would have been patched in by now, if someone other than I had suggested it.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.