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Eli Apol

Definitely a nullsec alt

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#61 - 2014-12-22 16:18:36 UTC

Eh he didn't necessarily earn enough it was probably plexes that bought those ships. And imo it was his fault for not learning or at least joining a group that could have taught him - that's his screw up - and a screw up made 100 times worse because they were screw ups whilst flying a ship he couldn't afford to lose (which was probably bought with plex)...

What dismays me is that it's most likely due to players targeting beginners in general that led to all of those situations - wardecs on nooby corps, ganking a newbie on a stream, awoxing a newbie on a stream...

And I mean that's his other mistake is to be streaming his actions (and reactions) in a game like Eve... I'm pretty glad I wasn't on voice comms or a stream when I've had some of the sandbox kicked in my eyes as a beginner :)

but what would I know, I'm just a salvager

Ramona McCandless

Silent Vale

LinkNet

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#62 - 2014-12-22 16:28:10 UTC

Lucas Kell wrote:

Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll.

You think that's me, I think that's you.

Impasse.

The constant state here.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

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Antihrist Pripravnik Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity Stain Neurodiverse Democracy Likes received: 965	#63 - 2014-12-22 16:31:26 UTC \| Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik Rrrright.... So, this is a regular "General Discussion" rant in form of a video that I couldn't accept as a parody or satire just because the author says so. For the reference, this is how you do a parody video for Eve trailers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Q6M6pO_2s or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUJ8WA681lU

Indahmawar Fazmarai

Likes received: 5,954

#64 - 2014-12-22 16:31:26 UTC

Eli Apol wrote:

Yay, he was stupid to play the sandbox his way and not CCP/PvPrs/AWOXers way. Now he's been cured of his misconceptions and maybe he's having a blast with E:D.

(BTW: In my EVE tenure, I've lost 2 Navy Apocs to NPCs. And no, a recording of my reaction in boyh cases would not have been nice to watch... Lol

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Jenn aSide

Worthless Carebears

The Initiative.

Likes received: 16,192

#65 - 2014-12-22 16:42:27 UTC

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Eli Apol wrote:

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No, he was stupid to play in an inefficient, ignorant and ineffective way.

Just because you want to do something doesn't make that thing valid. Reality (of the situation) determines validity.

This is the problem with lots of forum posters, they don't adapt themselves to reality, they expect reality to conform to their wishes. It doesn't work that way in life or in game.

Lucas Kell

Solitude Trading

S.N.O.T.

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#66 - 2014-12-22 16:43:22 UTC

Ramona McCandless wrote:

Lucas Kell wrote:

Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll.

You think that's me, I think that's you.

Impasse.

The constant state here.

We're both EVE players, so we're probably both right.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Jenn aSide

Worthless Carebears

The Initiative.

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#67 - 2014-12-22 16:53:54 UTC

Lucas Kell wrote:

It's pretty simple really. It's because the people getting pushed away from the game aren't just people who don't or won't like EVE. I'm sure many of the players pushed away from it would love it if they stuck with it and learned how it's played. But when you join a game which is already quite different to other games you play, then when you have a hard time you get surrounded by a bunch of idiots attacking and insulting you, it's not exactly the environment you want to stick around in to see if you like the game.

And yet here you are.

What you are describing is what's good about EVE. it's different from other games and full of hartd core internet mofos. The successful EVe candidate will see those mofos as CONTENT to surive and thrive against. The successful EVe candidate will see how different the game is form others and go "I like a challenge, game on". Surviving

You basically support weakness. Most game makers cater to weakness by mitigating the amount of 'bad' that can happen to it's players. CCP says "HTFU and go get em, ADULT player".

This is why I oppose damn near everything you say, because the EVE you'd like to see would be some mushy crap that I would not like to play filled with people I left WoW/"LotRO to get away from.

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Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll. Maybe it is though, would explain why developers with talent are happy to jump ship.

I like the EVE Community. The game is really just a back drop for community interaction. If you don't like the community in a community based game, doesn't that say something about how you go about making personal decisions about your free time. You being here is like being a member of PETA who likes to hang out at this place in his free time.

Lucas Kell

Solitude Trading

S.N.O.T.

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#68 - 2014-12-22 17:33:45 UTC

Jenn aSide wrote:

Lol, straight back to the "look how hardcore EVE players are because I play EVE and consider myself hardcore!". Eve players aren't hardcore, they are just people playing a game. Arguably there's less consequences in EVE than many other games, because at most you can lose some ISK, which most of us vets have more than enough to not care about anymore. I get so tired of listening to EVE players going on about how much better they are than every other type of gamer.

And no, I don't want "mushy crap", I'd just be happy to see CCP putting a bit of attention into drawing in and keeping a wider and larger group of players. And if the trolls want to keep trying to alienate everyone they can, then I'd have no issue with CCP reigning them in.

Jenn aSide wrote:

The game is a sandbox for whatever you want. You don't have to be part of the community and many players choose not to be. And mate, I've been here a long time. The community wasn't always filled with players who want nothing more to see other people's gametime ruined. People have always run around blowing each other up sure, but then following it up with endless insults and trolling and telling people to quit, that's not what EVE was about.

The thing is, like many others what you are doing here is refusing to accept that there's any middle ground. Because I don't like the level of troll that currently exists, you automatically classify me as "carebear hugging, wow playing crybaby" and lay out your arguments as such. That's simply not the reality. I like EVE, and I like the principles EVE stands by, but I certainly think there's room to improve it and bring in a wider and a stronger playerbase without breaking those principles.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

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McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal Likes received: 1,155	#69 - 2014-12-23 07:17:01 UTC \| Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo Lol, hilarious. I really enjoyed this. Thank you. Also, the video is pretty funny too. There are all our dominion Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin

Neth Ezbet

Caldari Provisions

Caldari State

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#70 - 2014-12-29 23:18:10 UTC

I'm a newbie player, essentially. I have maybe 11m in training and I have been gone for over a year. I think the biggest mistake that care bears make is that, in an online pvp game, they are in control of their environment. His comment about people running another's "game experience" screams a lack of understanding that even I, in my newbieness, understand. I flew freighters in high sec for awhile and learned that no one is safe. Anywhere. If you play in this sandbox, you accept that occasionally you are going to get sand (that is saturated in p&s) thrown in your eyes. You don't have to be a ganker, you don't have to choose to kill people at all. You simply have to accept that this is not your world, it belongs to the thousands of people who play in it.

This may seem obvious, but I think that after 10 years, people should get it by now. I may suck at the game, but my enjoyment comes at the risk involved. Who the heck really wants to play a game with no risk? What fun is it when you automatically win? I can't imagine how terribly dead some people are in real life with that level of fear.

I love my Corp, even knowing that many veterans roll their eyes, some people see is as a threat, and others see us as free kills. But at least I am willing to go out there and play the game, rather than get upset that someone might blow up my internet spaceship.

Enjoy Eve however you like, just remember that someone else is your system is doing the same thing when they scan you down or suicide gank your expensive ship.

Phaedron

Doomheim

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#71 - 2014-12-31 00:51:43 UTC | Edited by: Phaedron

Jenn aSide wrote:

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:

Eli Apol wrote:

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reality also dictates "Just because you want to do something doesn't make that thing valid" goes both ways regardless of how you play or what you choose to do.

you aren't excluded any more than anyone else is included [about your conclusion]....

..... & EvE doesn't conform, if that is the case how come you are doing just that in forum? you believe the game is X and you continue to support that Y is X, when it is likely Z. and you expect others to conform to your "reality" when sadly life doesn't work like that.....classic strawman, not to mention a tad bit hypocritical. "It doesn't work that way in life or in game" yeah it doesn't for you either sweetheart! and if this is valid or accurate if it doesn't for anyone then i wonder who EvE does cater to. if no one then why does anyone play? 1. because they can, so they choose to do so. 2. because gameplay mechanics allow them to do so, and 3. because CCP allow people to do so. fact: people don't have to adapt, fact: reality does conform to my wishes. my wishes are based on consensus reality not some willy nilly philosophy. therefore you are wrong. if i am wrong care to enlighten me why consensus reality is wrong and you are right, because you say so and continue to believe your own self created delusions.

also how is it your business what other players choose to do, who the **** are you to say they have to adapt or you think they should adjust their perception/s based on wh? yeah no one said you have to. look at those that don't and soon leave to play XYZ: online again. that is the beauty of a Sandbox. you can play however you want, and others have that same right. no other player has the right to say they have to conform to your way. doesn't happen in game and it definitely doesn't happen in real life.....see what i did there [i used reality to discredit you]

also i play EvE because 1. i can, 2. because i can, and lastly 3. because i can.
i don't care for people like you whom say your way is valid, my way is not valid. EvE is a sandbox MMORPG. that means that you can do whatever and it is VALID gameplay.

besides if someone loses 5 billion space imaginary currency then that isn't actually losing anything. if they only stay for the trial you won't need to get your knickers in a knot trying to explain your way is the right way in virtually every forum thread you post in.
people are playing incorrectly? what's it to you? you don't pay their way in game so why does your opinion matter to them? [they pay so they can play however or not play if they choose, and it is VALID, both gameplay and choice]

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Magnasis Drakkenwolf Likes received: 12	#72 - 2015-01-18 16:42:03 UTC Quick! Someone get the tear bucket..... There can be only one.. http://www.youtube.com/user/KensCrazyGaming

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Hoo Ji-Kyu Deepsafe Orphanage Ltd. Likes received: 0	#73 - 2015-01-22 15:15:59 UTC "How do you recruit new people if you shoot them". We weed out the weak from the strong. If you can not handle being killed in EVE, you should go play Farmville. It's literally that simple. People who can't handle dying in a video game, are going to have a bad time in EVE.

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Immortal Chrono Pimpin Codename-47 Avocado Cartel Likes received: 140	#74 - 2015-01-25 12:19:09 UTC This actually made me laugh, tbh its hard finding people who don't want to screw you over at sometime or another. I mean to be successful in EvE you have to be a sociopath, Call BS on that all you want but its true.