Ships & Modules

Just got wrecked by a Loki yet I don't understand how. It has no turret hard points, but the killmail showed it as having 720mm artillery. I've never used a Loki and don't understand any of the modules it uses, can someone enlighten me a little more on this ship and perhaps some practical applications? I apologize if this is poorly worded, haven't slept much lately.


Also the kill itself if that matters at all:
https://zkillboard.com/kill/43236043/

Hehe. That reminds me of the person that thought they could solo a tengu because "It doesn't have any CPU! It can't fit mods!".
Anyway, the T3 Cruisers (Loki, Legion, Proteus, Tengu) fit something called "Subsystems", these affect their attributes (all of them), but certain subsystems affect certain things. The Propulsion subsystems aren't going to affect your CPU, and the offensive subsystems aren't going to affect your speed.
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Strategic_Cruiser

That's just to sit in it, but yeah. The T3s are good (although they're mostly used for different things), since they can be used for all the roles other cruiser (and some frigates) can do, not as good in some cases though. It's probably a good idea to start with t1 cruisers, unless you're going to use it for a specific role (and there might be something better to go for, in that case)

It is, but as a newer player the losses will come often and a hull that expensive stings to lose. It's a good ship to work towards though. If you want to train into a T3 though, first establish what you want to do with it.

Loki excels at ganking small targets on stations and as a webber in fleets.
Legion is the ship you want as a fast-locking heavy tackler while gatecamping or as a neuter in fleets.
Proteus and Tengu for more general combat roles.

This is not set in stone, there are several ways to use each ship, but the current meta dictates these uses primarily.

When I started, I spun ships for 4 months straight in order to fly a Proteus as fast as humanly possible. My first level 5 skill was Gallente Cruiser. I undocked in a Prot for the first time after just breaking 4 mil Skill points so I consider myself an authority on the consequences of training T3 ship skills before you're ready. You need piloting skill, the proper supporting skills and basic knowledge about how they work in order to be effective in them - Based in your OP you evidently lack these things.

T3's are good for people that know how to use them, have the right skills and have support. That means sub skills to at least 4 with offensive and defensive sub skills at 5, all supporting skills to 4 if not 5, and maybe even a set of slaves if you're flying armor.

I'm not one of those "YOU MUST HAVE ALL THE THINGS TO LVL 5 PLUS HIGH GRADE SLAVES TO BE A T3 PILOT!!!" advocates, and I still have fun flying (And losing) my cloaky Prots in WH's, but unless all you intend on using the T3 for is low-key industrial ship blapping, (In which case it's acceptable to have ****** skills,) then my advice is just don't. If you're somewhat serious about your direction of training or you're KB efficiency, don't bother training T3 yet and fly frigs instead.

TL;DR: You're not looking at a mere 3 months - You're looking at over a year.

still working on keeping my ishkurs alive. developing engagement profile for bear hugging... deep hugging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPtHQvfzAQU

Flat out worth it training for a T3. So much you can do. My favorite ships in the game.

Totally worth it but realistically the time it takes to "perfect" a T3 is is not mere weeks but similar to that of a capital ship. It took me two years of intensely focused training to fly the very competent Tengu that I needed to do the things I wanted to do. T3s are superior to other subcaps in that they are dynamic and can be fitted to do many tasks effectively. Getting to know them takes time and experience.