Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If you don't like the idea just say it and if anyone else likes the idea we can work out the kinks. When it comes to soloing people will forever like that idea, its not a new idea and the idea of soloing will never end. The whole game is based around specific designs and coordinated to make it work otherwise you'd have one of the four weapons far superior to the other three, which is why they use only lasers in the movies.

Okay... here are the issues with your thought process...


You claim that a solo person should be able to take on countless people like in the movies. The problem is that the movies never reflect the hard reality.

That reality is that, mechanically, all players are "solo" even they choose to cooperate with others. So when you are facing 2, 5, or even 100 people in your one ship... you are, in effect, facing the combined might of all those "solo" players.

And you can't change that without introducing arbitrary mechanics that can be horribly abused by people (as some people have pointed out in this thread).

And yes, this is fantasy and a game and we should be able to fulfill our desires and all that jazz... but sometimes what you want is incompatible with the greater good or balance for all.
Remember that EVE is a wholly competitive MMO game at its core. No one can be made an exception to the rules or mechanics. Otherwise those same exceptions apply to everyone else.



The other issue I see is that you believe that high skillspoints (see: "Lengendary People") should mean that you cannot be beaten by multitudes of people will less skillpoints... just like in other MMOs.

This is not the case in EVE. And it is something we cherish here. Because it means both that...
- no one is "useless" and that anyone can affect anything and everyone from day 1.
- personal strength alone will not be enough to make you truly "powerful."

Now character skills DO COUNT... they give you an edge over others with less character skills. But it does mean that personal (player) skill also counts.
This is a balance that I believe CCP has hit almost perfectly.



In short: Not Supported.

Solo is already possible and does exist. You just have to think smarter, choose your engagements more wisely, and not believe that you are entitled to "fairness."

No. Because training skills DOES matter.

It just doesn't matter as much as you WANT it to matter.

who the hell says your meant to be a legend? In eve you are what you make of yourself and yes going out and finding a large group to roam with is a good solution if you don't feel you can solo. eve is all about how players interact with one another rather than some grad RPG where you and every other player go and save the same princess from the same villein.


I think you may see eve like a lot of other MMOs where greatness is handed to you rather than earned and that is not the case for the most part eve will those you in the mud and kick you while you're down but it just makes each victory you earn that much more rewarding.

Knowing that it wasn't part of some main quest line that everyone else has done a hundred times before you but rather something you have done and a story you have to tell like no one others.

is that they type of game for every one? no some people just want to be tossed into a theme park and ride the rides and that's fine its just not eve

Mmmmmnoooooooooooooo...

your perception of what a "Legend" should be is fairly skewed.


Becoming a "Legend" is about name recognition. Popularity... infamy... something that sets a person apart from everyone else.
Anyone can get lots of skillpoints or command lots of people. A "Legend" can use either (or both) in ways that "commoners" don't.


Take Chribba for example.
He has never shot at any other player in the game (to anyone's knowledge). Nor does he have the most skillpoints. But he does have LOTS and LOTS of money at his disposal. And a reputation for being the most trustworthy person in EVE. So trustworthy in fact that he has made a business out of it (by being a 3rd party "middleman" for very high value assets).
And if anyone declared war on him... with the wave of his hand he can summon up throngs of supporters, friends, and allies to come to his aid... failing that, he can afford the best mercs in the game.
Chribba is a "legend" by EVE standards.

The Mittani.
As a PvPer, he is not notable. But as a diplomat, shittalker, tactician, and propagandist he is one of the best out there. And what sets him apart from others like him is the sheer flair and trollishness that he puts into his role as "Dictator."
His skills have allowed him to command and maintain one of the largest coalitions in EVE history. He even got banned from the game for "crossing the line" during Fanfest. And yet despite his ban, he continued to lead his forces and influence the game.
The tales of his deeds (true or fabricated) are so widespread now that he is, in effect, a "Legend."

Garmon.
One of the single best solo-PvPers in EVE history. He used novel setups and tactics to beat both other solo targets as well as fleets. He has probably beaten people with MUCH more skillpoints than himself and lost to people with less. Whether or not he truly IS the best though... well... we can only judge based on his own recordings of what he has done.
Even still... he will forever be remembered as one of the few "Legendary" solo-PvPers in the game because of those recordings. Until someone better releases clips of their efforts.

Pandemic Legion.
Starting out as a pirate outfit in low-sec, PL gained notoriety for both it's heavy capital ship emphasis and widespread spy networks. Today, the name Pandemic Legion is spoken with both respect, fear, and revulsion as they have been hired by wealthy and powerful 0.0 alliances and coalitions to "do their dirty work."
They use their generally superior equipment and skills in tandem with other pilots of the same caliber to create absurdly powerful setups and tactics to dominate the the battlefield.
They are "Legends."

This is a forum about coming up with ideas. They -want- ideas. You all should go to the feedback area.

It's simple math. Same ships same skills same strategies = fleet wins. But also means no one won. Just because a few people have defeated fleets doesn't mean they do it 100% of the time. Nor does it mean they were going up against anyone with the same skills and weren't just killing a few rookies and also maybe getting lucky. And it's about becoming legendary not defeating fleets 50% 25% or 10% of the time. With unlimited skills you have the winner and you have the loser, fleet or not. Given you have other things than just guns and shields.

Ok that's enough. Obviously at this point all of you don't understand either idea. I'm not even going to read this thread anymore.

Which will be one person, or maybe X, where x is the number of alts you created with all those plex.

Gathering more than that requires charisma, understanding of game mechanics, time, and the willingness to cooperate with others. People don't follow someone that's babbling incoherent whines.

But have fun subsidizing someones SRP chest before they kick you to the curb once you are dry.

As long as my fleet is worth less than 10 bil, I'd let you, assuming you paid up front. I could double dip on your payment and then insurance.

That doesn't make you good though, just bad with money.