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buying a new desktop for eve,suggestions please
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Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-12-19 19:40:52 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Eve is mostly cpu heavy so if you're building with eve specifically in. Mind that's where you're going the want to spend money.

How many clients do you operate?

3 mostly,
4 when i rat
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-12-19 19:41:44 UTC
Cool
Sol Project wrote:
Congratulations!

For the last 25min nobody wrote anything in GD anymore.

Everyone is trying to find a good computer for your budget now.

I hope you feel good about this!

Edit: And ralph ruined it. Seriously... 25min and you post just before me.


yes yes yes

but no worry i love you too.BlinkCool
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-12-19 19:44:00 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Bateau Erinys wrote:
hi mac is really suck


Yes, yes it does..

You can buy or build a PC with an AMD A8 or A10 CPU (true quad core) and 8GB RAM for less than $500 without monitor. Make sure the RAM is at least DDR3 1866 and the onboard GPU will be very happy

You probably want to mention if you plan to multibox or not, but should be able to pull off 2 instances of EVE easily with something like the above before the GPU becomes the bottleneck.

More cores = multiboxing.
More cores = EVE + other things simultaneously.


understood. I'm -1/10 in terms of computers tho so probably will get something popular. Thank you very much
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-12-19 19:47:36 UTC
Grauth Thorner wrote:
Not really sure what PC's cost in Amerika, but like others said, the amount of instances of EVE you are running at the same time can determine how many cores you want on your CPU. An i5 2.00+ GHz, between 4 and 16GB of DDR3 RAM and something like a GeForce GTX 660+ should be able to run at least 2 instances at max settings. I am no fan of on-board GPU's. Depending on what you can actually get for the $ 500 you mentioned, and wether the monitor should be included in this price, you might want to lower the RAM and/or the GPU. In case you got some money left, try to find a CPU with more GHz.

Getting an i7 instead of an i5 or instead of a quadcore AMD is probably not within your budget, but it's not advised either unless you run at least 5 instances of the game (and possibly even more) at once. Otherwise i5 has better performance compared to an i7 with the same amount of GHz.

very important notice sir. I do already have a monitor, and definitely will not run over 5 instances at the same time. I'v been play EVE with low settings/ 13inch monitors for 6 years, so you may image how happy i will be even it is just a minor improvement. :))
and thank you.
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-12-19 19:48:52 UTC
Xylem Viliana wrote:
Tips on buying a computer for 1 game.

Dont, if its purely for 1 game soldier on till you need to upgrade for other reasons.

Thats like buying a new house cause the paint in one of the rooms isnt to your liking.


I can probably sell them....or ...i dont know...
you are right I can invest them elsewhere for more utility tho. :(
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-12-19 19:50:03 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
At present I have an AMD A8 (or A9.. lord I forget) with 16gb of ram, and an ATI R9 270 card, I can run 5 eve clients on high settings with no issues.

Also I have a i7 8gb laptop with an NVidia.. 870 I think in it, it can do 1 on high, I have not tested with more.

And I have an Asus T200TA Transformer book, I was able to play 1 account on medium to low settings with very little issues. though I just kinda flew around a wh and jita so have not really tested it yet.

Anything on the market today should play eve with no issues, except non real windows tablets (windows RT is not full windows)

Hope that helps

You can easily get an amd/ati computer setup for $400. just check a few place, pricewatch.com is a good reference for price comparison, if you build your own


Thank you. and you sir we are on completely differently levels lol
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-12-19 19:52:02 UTC
Bienator II wrote:
maybe not in your budget but i can only recommend a SSD. Buy a small for OS + things you use daily and keep the remaining stuff on classic drives.

That is also what I'm considering. I have one but that is only for work.
Bateau Erinys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-12-19 19:56:06 UTC
nice now i have some clues, will hunt for goods in christmas. o/
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#29 - 2014-12-19 20:10:37 UTC
Grauth Thorner wrote:
next-gen consoles

?????

Oh god.
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#30 - 2014-12-19 20:22:05 UTC
Bateau Erinys wrote:
hi mac is really suck at gaming especially for EVE... and I can not boot camp it because of some reasons. So... I'm thinking about buying a desktop only for playing eve, with that being said, you intelligent internet community have any suggestion? budget is up to $500. I appreciate any link or suggestion! fly safe


Www.pcpartpicker.com
Mara Gus
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-12-19 21:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Gus
eve wil llag on any pc is from game source and from this to server host in bananistan (for cost safe meby)

SSD can help kill but lagg Cpp made game to use lot HD nvm how ram or Vram you have i never use more 10% ram to game box

eve use 10% from my CPU i5 @ 4900 and 40% to my video radeon 7700 GH edidion /box max to can set
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-12-20 03:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Sri Nova
alot of people are recommending bare minimum builds , i would seriously consider real gaming hardware to serve your needs better .. This line of thinking is why the pc market is considered substandard.. to many people buy substandard pcs and complain about them constantly after they fufill there 1 year of usefulness. (the remaining years are spent on waiting for applications to perform adequately)

so spare your self some grief and get a


core i5 minimum, or a proper amd a10 or fx series processor, dedicated graphics, nvida 750 ti minimum or amd r7 260x minimum '' but i would .. just go for nvida gtx 970. and be done with it.

16 GB of ram IS MINIMUM (yeah you will see people argue for 4 but trust me 8gb is becoming cramped)

put a 500gb ssd drive in it with windows 7 64bit . (yeah you can go 8 but i would suggest not)

and have a proper rig for playing games with little compromise.

so its not going to meet the 500 dollar budget . screw it you deserve a proper rig.


anything less is really just doing it wrong.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-12-20 06:05:25 UTC
Sri Nova wrote:
core i5 minimum, or a proper amd a10 or fx series processor, dedicated graphics, nvida 750 ti minimum or amd r7 260x minimum '' but i would .. just go for nvida gtx 970. and be done with it.

16 GB of ram IS MINIMUM (yeah you will see people argue for 4 but trust me 8gb is becoming cramped)

put a 500gb ssd drive in it with windows 7 64bit . (yeah you can go 8 but i would suggest not)

and have a proper rig for playing games with little compromise.

so its not going to meet the 500 dollar budget . screw it you deserve a proper rig.


anything less is really just doing it wrong.


can you name a game that uses more than 8 GB of RAM

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Badel Jramodarr
#34 - 2014-12-20 06:17:09 UTC
I would suggest getting a pc composition that far exceeds your current needs as this will last for longer before needing to be upgraded. (but then again I'm a sucker for over engineering what I build.)
Well, that would be my suggestion anyway.
In the end, it's all about what you would be happy with.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-12-20 07:16:37 UTC
A big one in something solid like oak that can handle a couple of monitors and a keyboard with room for a pile of random stuff but make sure it is not going to be effected by coffee or beer split on it ...

... oh wait you meant the pc ...
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2014-12-20 08:53:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Sri Nova
Andski wrote:
Sri Nova wrote:
core i5 minimum, or a proper amd a10 or fx series processor, dedicated graphics, nvida 750 ti minimum or amd r7 260x minimum '' but i would .. just go for nvida gtx 970. and be done with it.

16 GB of ram IS MINIMUM (yeah you will see people argue for 4 but trust me 8gb is becoming cramped)

put a 500gb ssd drive in it with windows 7 64bit . (yeah you can go 8 but i would suggest not)

and have a proper rig for playing games with little compromise.

so its not going to meet the 500 dollar budget . screw it you deserve a proper rig.


anything less is really just doing it wrong.


can you name a game that uses more than 8 GB of RAM







Minecraft, (unbelievable I know)

while all the current games of today run with 8gb we are, already starting to see benefits of modded games having access to more system memory and yes, even more video card memory.

Taking games out of the picture, web browsers are becoming notorious memory hogs .

and since modern apps borrow or use similar APIs to create applications we are seeing some of the most memory intensive apps ever released.

The memory foot print is not getting smaller nor has it stagnated.

With advent of 4k gaming / media dawning 8GB will be the new BARE minimum .

No one is optimizing anything for less memory use these days.

every thing is getting larger the emails in our inbox, the web pages we view, and even the games we play.

this stuff is not becoming smaller or more optimized.


I wish 8gb was enough . its just like when we started pushing 2 gigs on all computers. we were already seeing the need for 4 gigs. even though the majority was clamoring that 1 gig was enough.

and in 5 years time we will be pushing into 32, crazy i know but 8k gaming/media is on the horizon.

as it stands i have yet to see where data requirements is becoming smaller.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-12-20 10:28:51 UTC
Bateau Erinys wrote:
hi mac is really suck at gaming especially for EVE... and I can not boot camp it because of some reasons. So... I'm thinking about buying a desktop only for playing eve, with that being said, you intelligent internet community have any suggestion? budget is up to $500. I appreciate any link or suggestion! fly safe


$500 is not going to buy you anything worth the money, you'd be cutting corners on everything and make your life a living hell. If you really need to get something done with $500, here's a suggestion http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xHJfRB with the option of using a normal hard drive instead of the SSD, but it's slow as hell and 4 clients should fit onto that SSD with the Windows installation.

You want to be looking at spending more to get the following upgrades:
Pentium to i5, about +$70
Proper motherboard, about +$40
Better CPU cooler, +$30
Higher quality power supply, +$40
Mass storage and/or better SSD, +$90/+$50
A case which is of some quality with some cooling fans, +$80

So, you'd be looking at spending at least $800 to get a solid system and this price does not include a Windows license.
Varathius
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2014-12-20 12:02:09 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Bateau Erinys wrote:
hi mac is really suck at gaming especially for EVE... and I can not boot camp it because of some reasons. So... I'm thinking about buying a desktop only for playing eve, with that being said, you intelligent internet community have any suggestion? budget is up to $500. I appreciate any link or suggestion! fly safe


$500 is not going to buy you anything worth the money, you'd be cutting corners on everything and make your life a living hell. If you really need to get something done with $500, here's a suggestion http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xHJfRB with the option of using a normal hard drive instead of the SSD, but it's slow as hell and 4 clients should fit onto that SSD with the Windows installation.

You want to be looking at spending more to get the following upgrades:
Pentium to i5, about +$70
Proper motherboard, about +$40
Better CPU cooler, +$30
Higher quality power supply, +$40
Mass storage and/or better SSD, +$90/+$50
A case which is of some quality with some cooling fans, +$80

So, you'd be looking at spending at least $800 to get a solid system and this price does not include a Windows license.


This ^
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
#39 - 2014-12-20 12:53:57 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Grauth Thorner wrote:
next-gen consoles

?????

You know, like PS4 and Xbox One. If devs develop a game for one of these platforms, they usually use the same amount of threads on the PC version to make it easier to maintain the game.

View real-time damage statistics in-game

>EVE Live DPS Graph application forum thread

>iciclesoft.com
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#40 - 2014-12-20 13:17:16 UTC
Grauth Thorner wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Grauth Thorner wrote:
next-gen consoles

?????

You know, like PS4 and Xbox One. If devs develop a game for one of these platforms, they usually use the same amount of threads on the PC version to make it easier to maintain the game.

Well your reasoning is sound, so it must be legit.

Oh god.