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Combat Recons undetectable by d-scan in Proteus
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Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-12-31 01:33:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Hayson
Jez Amatin wrote:
There's a false impression that dscan is completely reliable. Currently, there's a good chance u will not pickup that covops as it cloaks off a WH anyway.

Pssshhh! Don't tell them!
It makes blowing them up so much easier when they believe in the safety of d-scan spamming. Twisted
RcTamiya Leontis
Magister Mortalis.
#62 - 2014-12-31 17:48:59 UTC
Jack Hayson wrote:
Jez Amatin wrote:
There's a false impression that dscan is completely reliable. Currently, there's a good chance u will not pickup that covops as it cloaks off a WH anyway.

Pssshhh! Don't tell them!
It makes blowing them up so much easier when they believe in the safety of d-scan spamming. Twisted


covops scouts + several monitors, nuff said Twisted
Necharo Rackham
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#63 - 2015-01-02 18:50:43 UTC
RcTamiya Leontis wrote:

covops scouts + several monitors, nuff said Twisted


Well, the biggest impact will be in lower wormhole classes, which already suffer from a rats nest of connections post the last but one expansion and to the smallest corps - so again, I'm not sure it's going to be a net positive.
Matarella
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#64 - 2015-01-03 22:32:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Matarella
Andrew Jester wrote:
I don't think any of them really got a DPS buff, so it shouldn't be too bad. Like that other guy said, Lach could be scary, but I wouldn't be too worried about the others. I don't this change will bring a rise to solo recon pilots, but they may be good for grabbing initial point since they don't appear on d-scan and don't have the decloak lock delay.



Only combat recons get the not show up on d-scan feature. The cloaky recon is still visible on d-scan when not cloaked.

Easy counter is just have max range combat probes out and keep scanning. everything else stays the same.
Kuklinski
Hyenas
#65 - 2015-01-04 11:30:48 UTC
I wondered if this is their roundabout way of "dealing" with OGB. Combat Recon D-Scan changeWhat?-OP- needs addressed post-implementation due to the OP'ness. Bring in Combat scanning gives you 100% every time on 1st scan-fixes OP Recons but (what really intended)-OGBs now pretty screwed unless they in POS.

I think this D-Scan change is pretty rubbish-gimmick. Should have given them more offense/defense capabilities like e-attack HACS or something.
Aiyshimin
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#66 - 2015-01-04 12:55:16 UTC
Necharo Rackham wrote:
RcTamiya Leontis wrote:

covops scouts + several monitors, nuff said Twisted


Well, the biggest impact will be in lower wormhole classes, which already suffer from a rats nest of connections post the last but one expansion and to the smallest corps - so again, I'm not sure it's going to be a net positive.



Lower class whs are better because they have more connections and thus more "content".

Billy Hardcore
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2015-01-04 17:44:22 UTC
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Braxus Deninard wrote:
I see nothing wrong with more danger in w-space.

If anything it shakes up the typical heavy armor t3 fights more with some room for recons in the comps.


t2 resists profile are great.

But undetectable recons are a game changer for all the places where holes are not rolled before engaging in PVE, i.e. all the C1 holes, and a vast majority of C2-C4 systems.

In the long run this would probably prove to be bad from a hunter's perspective too, since the prey won't show any longer.


agreed give them the resist bonus they needed it!! i think all t2 ships should get t2 resists but the dscan?? plz ccp just stop

#BillyFleet
Necharo Rackham
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#68 - 2015-01-04 23:37:15 UTC
Aiyshimin wrote:


Lower class whs are better because they have more connections and thus more "content".



Which is fine as long as you always make isk away from where you live, I don't think this is the case for the majority of people in w-space though (protestations to the contrary notwithstanding).