EVE General Discussion

I personally am not arguing the fact that drones dropping minerals is either bad or needs to be changed. I agree. I would rather have BOUNTIES and meta loot. It would make things 100% easier than they are now for drone space. The thing I am ticked off about is that they did nothing to change the way we get money, they just made it so we make 50% less. If they were to make horde sites full bounty right now I would not mind one bit. At least then my income would be stable and instant.

As it stands right now it takes me over a week to get isk for horde sites due to having to transport and refine. Not to mention all of the RISK of having to transport massive amounts of alloys that could be blown up by reds.

Roll back the changes just made to the horde site and wait until you make fundemental changes to how we get paid before you start screwing with horde sites.

Well you need to think twice about this little thing.

Removing or decreasing modules loot will not help that much miners but sure it's another little plus. Now what you are doing right there is decrease missioners income by a large margin, why?

Bounty are not that important has isk income on his own, you need to add lp's and then the poor minerals reprocess you've got to build some stuff/sell it. In fact has a hole mission profession is not badly balanced since your global income is related to several activities.
In null sec you can find full belts/sites of wrecks no one loots or salvage, first because of danger factor and second because it seems they don't need minerals, look at all those empty belts in null...

I'm ok to get rid of all loot from wrecks and get only meta 4 instead, go ahead I wouldn't be bothered but in change bounty or lp's in high sec would need a big boost to compensate this loss.

'Mineral' Supply drops from bugged drone anoms being fixed, market supply drops, price rises, more people actually start to mine again, supply increases, prices stabilize.

I don't see anything wrong with that picture, unless you were one of those smartbomb bs / carrier idiots exploiting this bugged anomaly for a few years.

^^ Base point of the problem.

Minerals to miners!!!

I'm being guilty of responding to this before reading the entire thread (limited time).

I agree, and personally I'd like to see Rogue Drones provide specialized components for creating T2 Drones of all types, Drone Rigs, and possibly any type of T2 item/rig that augments command and control functions for multiple ships. It makes good sense, to me at least.

I personally don't have an issue with one region supplying the bulk of these materials, as that promotes ninja harvesting and eventually fuels aggression if marketing games are being played. Also, drone complexes in other area's would supply the occasional supplement to the supplies coming out of drone space.

Again CCP has shown it has learned little from its recent mistakes.
Not making official advanced statements about another Nerf and taking feedback from those it effects or giving them time to make appropriate changes.
CCP has once again show they have little regard for their CUSTOMERS.
Let me make this clear if many of you already haven't noticed.
This game is a very small pond i would estimate easily 50% of this game is alt accounts or inactive players.
The norm is to see 600+ member alliances with little actual active members, and CCP is pissing in a small pond of active players with little regard for their opinions on these changes.
If CCP wants to continue losing subscriptions they are on the right track recent new game releases have given the paying customer other options and that is evident in recent actual player activity in eve.

Lets look at this Nerf Objectively.

- yet another drone lands Nerf guys its getting old (stop listening to those who do not live here they are only bitching its human nature)

- ratting in other regions gives instant isk awesome and then you can collect the loot and salvage and if that not enough you get faction loot that is actually worth something. isk isk isk i say.

-in the drone lands the materials we collect we have to then convert via industry to a marketable object or we have to cover the cost of logistics to get the minerals to market which with ccps new kill everything that moves pvp direction is becoming hard and extremely expensive to do.

-the faction loot in drone lands is worthless, faction drones have never been big sellers on markets and was a fail concept by CCP which has not been rectified not to mention its so rare there is little if no isk made off of faction drops.

-awesome many say hey lets make changes to level the drone lands seems the whole community sees the need for changes but CCP instead of coming up with viable changes for the drone lands just keeps giving it the Nerf hammer.

i fear for the future of this game because of CCP's shortsightedness and their complete disregard for the actual active and paying members of this gaming community.

After many years as a active member of this gaming community i have seen many fail cascades and CCP and eve is in the middle of a fail slide Question to us all is can they stop the slide and further more do they really care?

you obviously dont know how drone npcs work.

Do you have to loot all the wrecks and sell poop to make money in ur space?

says the goon that is going to be attacking drone space but not trying to hold on to sov because you wouldnt be able to support yourself in drone space like we can.

Sorry but as things are now...
That nerf to drone regions is drop of water for thirsty miners in the desert.
And miners must support it and love it.

Yea the new incarnation of Goons have a real good track record of invading... but not actually changing anything..
Didn't someone give you there space?
What was the last thing you invaded and took over sov? BoB? oh wait you clicked a button and won. Oh then what happen.
The fact is you guys havnt done anything to talk about mentioning except mabye increasing the price of gas by 500isk per/unit in the last year+.