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High sec customs office tax now 100 times more !! post patch WTF?
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Bahr Cudas
Beta Ray Bill
#161 - 2011-12-07 06:10:21 UTC
I'm a High Sec PI operator. I don't mind the changes at all. In fact, I was feeling alittle guilty by the spoonfed ISK of the pre-Crucible PI setup.Smile

Its basically just a cost-of-living increase across the board. Once the shock wears off pilots will return to it. The first half dozen exports are the hardest. Your wallet blinks and your butt clenches, but when you complete your high end products and sell them it all evens out in the end...
Var Redin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#162 - 2011-12-12 02:41:41 UTC
My taxes go up 100%, CCP's bank account gets $15.00 lighter per month.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2011-12-12 12:40:49 UTC
And another one pretends to quit the game over an increase in costs which the market has already begun adjusting to.

vOv

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Esunisen
Les Tueurs de Killer
#164 - 2011-12-12 23:39:53 UTC
Jita Buy orders 5 mins ago:
Broadcast Node: 1,408,002.20 isk
Integrity Response Drones: 1,420,000.08 isk
Nano-Factory: 908,182.29 isk
Organic Mortar Applicatiors: 700,004.52 isk
Recursive Computing Module: 1,100,000.37 isk
Self-Harmonizing Power Core: 1,400,001.52 isk
Sterile Conduits: 1,003,181.49 isk
Wetware Mainframe: 1,670,000.00 isk

I did many test on Sisi: With my 24/7 P4 factory planet setup, i have to spend 6.9M isk per hour, and i get 8.5M isk per hour selling my P4s. There is still more taxes(41.7M/day) than profit (32.4M/day). Of course, if done in low/null/wh, there is 0 taxes. So those who are doing PI in highsec can't compete with others.

-> CCP has to add NPC buy orders @ 1,350,000 isk to solve the problem
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#165 - 2011-12-13 00:11:59 UTC
Var Redin wrote:
My taxes go up 100%, CCP's bank account gets $15.00 lighter per month.


You won't be missed.
Ewa Cromwell
Isolation Chambers Inc
#166 - 2011-12-16 02:55:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ewa Cromwell
So I was working out the maths as I run a POS with alts and was wondering if it's worth it to put them back up.

As an example, Mechanical Parts, made of precious metals and reactive metals

to get 1 unit of precious metal off the planet is 50 isk in taxes
likewise 1 unit of reactive metals off the planet is also 50 isk

material ratio for mech parts is 40:5, or reduced, 8:1

importing 8 units of each to the planet is is 200 isk each

exporting 1 unit of mech parts 900 isk

so...
exporting P1 50 X 8 X 2 = 800 isk
importing P1 25 X 8X 2 = 400 isk
exporting P2 900 X 1 = 900 isk

total cost for 1 mech part is 2100 isk

2 large POS's consume 7200 mech parts per 30 days or 1,512,000 isk per month (at just the tax rate).

Having been drinking while doing the maths I'm not going to guarantee the results, so if I botched the math please feel free to correct it. Blink


I can see how this would cripple a noob because it would be hard to keep that much liquid isk on hand. Off loading 3 Pi planets and 2 P2 planets and reloading the same 2 P2 planets cost me just shy of 10 mil isK


Yup, the math is borked, shipped 1 off and the number doesn't jive, will look again tomorrow when sober.
Drachiel
Mercury LLC
#167 - 2011-12-17 16:04:29 UTC
It's pretty bad. 17% of these values is too high. If it dropped down to 12% or 10% it'd be in a good place.