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Circadian Seekers, a Study

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Celestia Via
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#101 - 2015-03-24 16:30:56 UTC
New seeker behaviour.
Footage 1
Footage 2


They seem to be trying to cut into the hull. They alternate a yellow beam and a blue beam. Nothing like their "scan beams" we have witnessed until now.

"We marched for days and nights, under sun, in the rain. Our minds and bodies ached for rest, but in our hearts there was nothing but the fight."

Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#102 - 2015-03-24 16:39:57 UTC
Celestia Via wrote:
New seeker behaviour.
Footage 1
Footage 2


They seem to be trying to cut into the hull. They alternate a yellow beam and a blue beam. Nothing like their "scan beams" we have witnessed until now.


Yeah, this can't be good.

In your captures, there's a sign of damage, basically a hull rupture. Is this something new, or have seen such damage previously?

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference

Celestia Via
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#103 - 2015-03-24 16:47:02 UTC
The damage is new.

I was trying to verify the reports on them picking up corpses when I actually saw them doing this. Seems the structure contains something of value to them and they are trying to extract it. Given their aggression on anyone who approaches, they also probably dont wanna share.

Also, I did verify the original issue, they do pick up corpses afterall. They even stay behind from the rest of the group to do so.

"We marched for days and nights, under sun, in the rain. Our minds and bodies ached for rest, but in our hearts there was nothing but the fight."

Caiman Graystock
Starways Congress
#104 - 2015-03-24 20:20:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Caiman Graystock
I have visited a number of the structures today and they all appear to have been damaged, by something. I captured some shots below at the structure in Sigga to demonstrate this further...

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Image 3

Has anyone seen what caused this damage?
Morgana Tsukiyo
Samsara Dynamics
#105 - 2015-03-24 20:35:19 UTC
It seems the Circadian Seekers finally found something.....

So now we have them getting corpses and opening holes (and perhaps stealing something) from the Jove Observatories?

Did anyone kill any of them after they stole things to see if they leave a wreck with something?

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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#106 - 2015-03-24 21:01:28 UTC
Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:
It seems the Circadian Seekers finally found something.....

So now we have them getting corpses and opening holes (and perhaps stealing something) from the Jove Observatories?

Did anyone kill any of them after they stole things to see if they leave a wreck with something?

Yes, this thing.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#107 - 2015-03-24 21:31:49 UTC
Anyone tried to fly into the hole they cut it out of?
Bourbon Limoges
Doomheim
#108 - 2015-03-24 21:36:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Bourbon Limoges
Ned Thomas wrote:
Anyone tried to fly into the hole they cut it out of?


It is a tight fit. For the tower in Eystur, there is an intense, small, spherical light source inside two of the "excavated" chambers. It is not clear if these are fires resulting from the remodeling choices, or eggs of burning birds that will spread their wings and usher in an age of perpetual darkness... burning darkness.

Possibly, they are holes leading deeper into the tower. If that is the case, something deeper into the interior of the tower is on fire.

Edit:

Other notes regarding new Circadian behavior:

If a patrol of Circadians is drawn to the Jove Observatory, they may start hitting with their laser beams. If they arrive far from the structure, and there are no wrecks or other objects of interest near the tower, they do not generally head over to it and begin extracting. If you want to observe the new laser beams, fly in close to the tower, get blown up, and wait for them to take an interest in your debris.

The Circadians collect corpses. They do not use beams to pull the corpse to them, but instead fly right up next to and to grab it with their steely pincer like appendages of wiggling doom. Corpses are not necessarily high priority targets for them. They will go and look at other objects. But if there is a corpse, one Seeker will detach from the group and collect it before warping off.

There is some concern that feeding the Seekers is a Bad Idea. I for one am compelled to answer any call for nudity. The wires out the back I could do without. Why couldn't the Jove have given us wireless pod technology? Why the hell are we even in a pod, or at least a pod in space? Is that not stupid? We should be in a pod in a swimming pool and beaming our commands out into space.

Bandwidth, shmandwidth.

Perhaps whichever branch of Jovians these are thought much the same and forgot where the swimming pools were located.

Speaking of "whichever branch of Jovians these are," we are trying to place the age of the towers. Their architectural style does not conform well to known examples of current Jovian design. Consequently, one line of conjecture is that these observatories predate the present Jovian Empire, and were placed to observe "something other than us" (like the coming perpetual darkness).
Celestia Via
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#109 - 2015-03-25 11:34:38 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Morgana Tsukiyo wrote:
It seems the Circadian Seekers finally found something.....

So now we have them getting corpses and opening holes (and perhaps stealing something) from the Jove Observatories?

Did anyone kill any of them after they stole things to see if they leave a wreck with something?

Yes, this thing.



Jaret, are you suggesting that the Antikythera Element is what they are harvesting from the observatories?
It makes sense since we only saw it on them after they cut the structures' hull open.

It is imperative to study this new find extensively, I do not think I need to point out its potential importance to any of you, at this point.

"We marched for days and nights, under sun, in the rain. Our minds and bodies ached for rest, but in our hearts there was nothing but the fight."

Captain Davison
Malachi Keep Detachments
#110 - 2015-03-26 03:46:05 UTC
I can confirm that they do seem inordinately interested in stealing corpses.

Please police up your corpses after driving your enemies before you so that we do not end up with a further cyberzombie uprising.
per
Terpene Conglomerate
#111 - 2015-03-26 13:39:44 UTC
they keep cutting into the jove structure for sure
cutting operation
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#112 - 2015-03-26 14:02:01 UTC
per wrote:
they keep cutting into the jove structure for sure
cutting operation


I think this pretty answers any questions regarding whether or not Drifters and Seekers are working together.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Crystal Chantreuse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2015-03-31 03:36:28 UTC
So... they've been cutting down the Jove Observatories and collecting components? This is fascinating. I've heard stories about Jovian space, some of the oldest stories of New Eden of which I am aware. So this means, we're seeing pieces of the oldest technology? Wow... and to think.. every day we wonder about how we continue in the direction we're going. We ponder how we're moving forward.

We never really think about moving back...


I wonder... if one day, we may see the broken worlds of our ancestors.


Or maybe they won't be broken at all.

~Crystal Chantreuse, Janitorial Services Manager

Bourbon Limoges
Doomheim
#114 - 2015-03-31 23:11:31 UTC
Regarding interactions between Nation and Drifter forces...

After dodging the suggestion of an assassination attempt by His Excellency the Yan Jungian assassin, I observed Circadian Seekers at the JO in Colelie for several hours. Nation forces never visited the tower during that time.

I then warped to an asteroid field. My velator was almost immediately vaporized by Nation forces. I hung out in a pod for several hours. By this time, His Excellency was experiencing difficulty sustaining his connection to the Yan Jungian routers.

Nation forces cycled in and out of the asteroid field.

For one of their own patrol cycles, the Circadians joined me, a couple of little Nation bugs, a mid-sized Nation bug, and a big Nation bug in the asteroid field.

The Circadians scanned the asteroids. I did not see them scan any of the Nation vessels, though they were right on top of one another. Although Nation forces delighted in the destruction of my velator, they did not fire on the Circadians.

When the Circadians finished with the asteroids, they warped off.

Tangent:

It appears that if, when you warp away from JO, if your exit path passes near the tower, you will be "flagged" as having trespassed. The next time Circadians encounter you, they will open fire. They do not have to have been present when the "trespass" occurred. This may explain some of the reports of "unprovoked" aggression by Circadians. It is far from intuitive that a trespass has occurred. In my case, it took two ship pops before the bad juju was cleared.

If your warp out path would take you within 80km of the tower, do not do that. Warp to another object, and then proceed along your way.
Ghelisis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2015-04-01 05:07:10 UTC
I've been trying to figure out what this Antikythera Element is, and I am perplexed. it is definitely Jovian by the looks of things, and definitely was broken off of something, but what it is I can't say. It reminds me of a power supply somehow with the green glow...if these come from those Jovian towers, why aren't they lit up? Our stations have windows, and they seem to be windowless.

Anyway, I have a few tens of these things by now, and disassembling one has proven to be fruitless so far. They seem to be made of a hard, indestructible alloy of some type. I even tried to irradiate one by buying a shuttle and putting it inside of the warp core assembly for a few hours. That either succeeded or failed depending on how you look at it, as while that didn't answer any questions I had, I did have a reaction. The shuttle turned into a mound of molten metal, sooooo I suppose we know now it doesn't react well to warp cores.

Another thing, these Drifters might not be Jovian after all...or perhaps Jovians that somehow traveled back in time from thousands of years in the future. if you look at the Jovian "Eidolon" battleships, they have engines, since you can see their exhaust gases...these "Jovians" do not have engines like we know then, rather they seem to have some sort of a time-space drive - they DON'T use traditional propulsion, they actually push against the fabric of space itself - hence the rippling effect associated with them.

Padre Aldan
Gemini Talon
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#116 - 2015-04-01 08:31:29 UTC
I am afraid my own studies into this matter are ongoing but slow, I am preparing a perch and fitting my best Cloaking ship for a long vigil.

I have written this elsewhere but it maybe better suited here.

On Antikythera and the Antikythera Mechanism.

The best current translations of "Antikythera" I can give is from the ancient languages and would be either "opposite the island of love" or "the island of hate". It originates from the word "Kythera" being the mythical Island of the Goddess of Love.

Perhaps it was aptly named, only time shall tell.

The Antikythera Mechanism requires more research and I am open to suggestions from others of what function it may have.

Whilst some say that these events can be linked directly into the prophesies in the Amarr Scriptures, I for one shall not be preaching about the End of Days and Apocalypse just yet.

Whilst these revelations of the Drifters and Seekers do not bode well for us, I am not worried, we are Capsuleers, we shall overcome.

As always I shall keep watch and keep you all informed.

With faith,

Padre Aldan of Providence.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#117 - 2015-04-01 13:43:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
Two things.

1. While examining the damage to a JO, I noted that the wreckage appears to be largely intact portions of hull materials that have burst outwards, indicating a possible internal failure or explosion as the source. So perhaps the Drifters and Seekers are not the ones that actually damaged the observatories. But are simply happy to take advantage of it.

2. Antikythera Element: My initial phoneme matching of the word "Antikythera" revealed it to be Greek, an ancient Earth language. This led me into some truly ancient and esoteric historical files on our joint history. We are all from Earth as you should know.

This research into ancient Earth revealed that there was once an island named Kythera, which was a part of the afore-mentioned Greek nation, as well as another opposite of it named Antikythera. Submerged in a primitive sailing ship wreck near the latter an ancient archaeologist found a ruined and wrecked object that he surmised was the rusted remains of some sort of astronomical time telling device. It could relatively accurately (for that truly ancient time) predict the movement of local celestial bodies such as the sun, moon, known planets, and even eclipses. They named this device the Antikythera Mechanism.

So I'm wondering if this thing is some sort of celestial time telling device, or a least a piece of one.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Markus Error
Manfios
#118 - 2015-04-04 03:23:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Error
While performing reconnassaince of a Jove observatory in Minmatar space earlier today, I came across a number of wrecked vessels surrounding the warp-in beacon - at least three of them Drifter battleship wrecks.

I was under the impression these did not appear after a Drifter ship was destroyed - presumably due to some form of self-destruct. Please, correct me if I am wrong here.

Approaching them earned me the ire of a number of Circadian Seekers nearby. An attampt at salvaging one wreck produced no result; I was forced to leave, then, taking damage from the Seekers.

Unfortunately, I have no images available at this time - I will try to find them in my sensor logs -but it would seem some rather powerful - or possibly, a rather dedicated fleet - engaged and destroyed at least three Drifter battleships. I leave it to sharper minds than my own to interpret this data.

As a collary: one of the Seeker wrecks inspected after the fight contained Antikythera, but only a single unit. None of the other Seekers seemed to have anything in their cargo holds; although given that they had been blown up, we cannot be certain.

"If it cannot be shot the #### down, it can always be blown the #### up."

-Unknown

Rhys Mabigonon
Industrial Mining and Mayhem
Sigma Grindset
#119 - 2015-04-19 06:40:47 UTC
While performing my routine observations of the local Jovian Observatories I happened to come across a pair of Drifters accompanied by a Circadian Seeker. They initially were at some distance from the structure before moving into closer proximity. Following at a distance in a cloaked vessel, I began to fine tune the visual feed of my ship as they suddenly interacted with the Observatory. Here are some of the images I captured:

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Image 5

While these images are concentrated on the Drifters the lone Seeker was located farther up the Observatory, engaging in the same manner.
Cakzad Arcashiri
Arcashiri Family
#120 - 2015-04-20 15:23:07 UTC
I would like to add that I have personally spotted several Circadian Sleepers in different locations in the Systems. For example, I spotted one when I was mining. It stayed for about 10 minutes before pretty much disappearing. I also spotted one in a different system about 50km from a Station.

Has anyone else seen this behavior?

"I give to you the destiny of Faith,

And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:

Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13