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Everyone is too obsessed with their killboard stats!

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Shelby Dusette
Division 13
#41 - 2014-12-12 20:41:37 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
I'm a carebear and I have a solo kill.

Why don't you?


I have plenty, what's your point?

Shadow Serpentis Warp Scrambler.

I think killboards are fun. They're a nice, convenient summary of your fun time (or sadness) as well as a great intel and after-action tool. Most gamers love stats, numbers and spreadsheets about themselves, the game or other players and nothing wrong with that. It's a public record you can take pride (or horror) in. Sure, some people take it to extremes though like any other part of the game, but heh.

http://i.imgur.com/Wujzy5l.jpg

Jenn aSide
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#42 - 2014-12-12 20:43:25 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:


With eve, it's the same thing. People are too scared to take risks because of the possible loss. I'm pretty sure if there weren't any public killboard sites, there would be much more pvp in eve.


I've heard people say this time and time again since I started playing. It didn't make sense then and it doesn't make sense now.

Some people don't pvp for a variety of reasons.

Other people like some types of pvp and not others (i'm in this boat, i like "fleet fights" because those usually have an objective like taking or defending space, which makes me a dirty blobber, but flying around solo or in a small gang looking for people to shoot isn't my idea of fun).

While I'm sure their is at least one person in the universe who doesn't pvp because "omg someone would see it if I failed", I don't think that is in any way a popular sentiment. Most of the people I've encountered who don't 'pvp' are people who don't like to lose things and feel the sting of that loss.
Jenn aSide
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#43 - 2014-12-12 20:48:22 UTC
Shelby Dusette wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:

what's your point?

Shadow Serpentis Warp Scrambler.


I C wat U did there!

Quote:

I think killboards are fun. They're a nice, convenient summary of your fun time (or sadness) as well as a great intel and after-action tool. Most gamers love stats, numbers and spreadsheets about themselves, the game or other players and nothing wrong with that. It's a public record you can take pride (or horror) in. Sure, some people take it to extremes though like any other part of the game, but heh.

http://i.imgur.com/Wujzy5l.jpg



Well said. I tend to think that people who say "there would be more pvp without killmails/boards" are really saying "I would pvp more if my shameful losses were not made public, those public losses make me feel bad about myself and lets others ridicule me".

It's basically a self-esteem issue.
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#44 - 2014-12-12 20:48:28 UTC
One of the main cancer's is killboard stalking.. I agree with the OP.. killboards have became such an obsession for the elites that they cant live without looking at it.. one main thing I simply do not understand is why my private in-game actions is posted outside on public without me even consenting to it..

it doesn't make sense, it causes griefing, there is no valid reason except exposing who's good at pvp and who's not.. and surely who's new to eve.. I know the elites will debate it over and over again and defend their obsessive compulsive disorder. but its true..

the gimmick of looking up expensive KM's almost teaches a person how to stalk someone online.. and that's what really it is plain and simple.

there are players that actually do not log into the game and play but instead just sit and watch killboards and then log in just to fuss at someone losing a ship on a killboard!.. its crazy
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#45 - 2014-12-12 20:57:58 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
So, I was roaming in lowsec again with my favorite fed navy comet. I saw another fed navy in the novice, so I pursued him in. As I was landing, he warped away. I asked him why he did it and he told me he's too scared. He lost his comet about 30 minutes later to a kiting tristan.

This happens a LOT to me in lowsec. Last night, 2 comets bailed. About 2 weeks ago, I was sitting in a novice with a republic fleet firetail and another firetail appeared on dscan, he was sitting in front of the novice for about a minute and then he warped.

I asked him in local why he did it, and he told me he's worried about losing his ship.

In my opinion, the public killboard is CANCER. It kinda reminds me of call of duty and kills/losses ratio.

With eve, it's the same thing. People are too scared to take risks because of the possible loss. I'm pretty sure if there weren't any public killboard sites, there would be much more pvp in eve.

I have a little nasty daredevil with a faction web sitting in a lowsec station, but my corp/alliace wouldn't be happy if I lost it. I have a vindicator I'm eager to use in solo pvp, but my corp members would kill me if I caused 2 billion loss on KB. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

I just wish there weren't no public killboards.

Combat log stats in eve should definitely stay, and imo one should be on the kill it even if he doesn't cause the final blow. You ***** on a killmail, it should appear in the combat log. That way, if there weren't public killboards, you'd still see and could link what you've lost/killed.

This is probably not going to happen, but it would be awesome if it did!


And it wouldn't be a problem for corp recruiters, either. They could just see all your kills/losses in your API.


If I think I will lose a fight, I'll bail, if I think I will win, I'll fight. Has nothing to do with killboards. Your understanding of cancer is rather troublesome; get help.
Sugar Smacks
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-12-12 21:18:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sugar Smacks
The killboard has the same effect to this game as being able to map wormholes right down to knowing when the last person farming was.

While it is great to be able to share a killmail, making everyones so everyone can see them was kind of dumb.

When your alliances intelligence is set to 3rd party programs you know this game is broken.
ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
#47 - 2014-12-12 21:37:37 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
So, I was roaming in lowsec again with my favorite fed navy comet. I saw another fed navy in the novice, so I pursued him in. As I was landing, he warped away. I asked him why he did it and he told me he's too scared. He lost his comet about 30 minutes later to a kiting tristan.

This happens a LOT to me in lowsec. Last night, 2 comets bailed. About 2 weeks ago, I was sitting in a novice with a republic fleet firetail and another firetail appeared on dscan, he was sitting in front of the novice for about a minute and then he warped.

I asked him in local why he did it, and he told me he's worried about losing his ship.

In my opinion, the public killboard is CANCER. It kinda reminds me of call of duty and kills/losses ratio.

With eve, it's the same thing. People are too scared to take risks because of the possible loss. I'm pretty sure if there weren't any public killboard sites, there would be much more pvp in eve.

I have a little nasty daredevil with a faction web sitting in a lowsec station, but my corp/alliace wouldn't be happy if I lost it. I have a vindicator I'm eager to use in solo pvp, but my corp members would kill me if I caused 2 billion loss on KB. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

I just wish there weren't no public killboards.

Combat log stats in eve should definitely stay, and imo one should be on the kill it even if he doesn't cause the final blow. You ***** on a killmail, it should appear in the combat log. That way, if there weren't public killboards, you'd still see and could link what you've lost/killed.

This is probably not going to happen, but it would be awesome if it did!


And it wouldn't be a problem for corp recruiters, either. They could just see all your kills/losses in your API.


agreed.


the day i stopped caring about my KB is the day i started having more fun.
Big Lynx
#48 - 2014-12-12 21:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Big Lynx
Mashie Saldana wrote:


I have a little nasty daredevil with a faction web sitting in a lowsec station, but my corp/alliace wouldn't be happy if I lost it. I have a vindicator I'm eager to use in solo pvp, but my corp members would kill me if I caused 2 billion loss on KB. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

.


Killed a suspect in osmeden with a 130b frigate. Ssssssssshhhhhhhhh!!


edit: killboards are overestimated. Have some fun instead.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2014-12-12 21:51:53 UTC
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
Goonswarm don't even have a killboard


And when we did it was the most godawful thing to look at that people would post anything else in their SRP requests to avoid using it.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-12-12 21:58:30 UTC

Every now and then we would get a Nintendo or computer game and I would try it out before my brothers do. After I crash and burn, I'd be #1 on the high score list because no one else has played the game, and I would put in my three-letter name proudly.

Not even a day would go by and my brothers would kick me off the computer and play the game over and over until they wipe my name off the scoreboard completely, as if I never existed.

EVE is a game. People love high scores and they obsess over them. Isn't that an ok thing to do for something that's essentially entertainment?

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Paranoid Loyd
#51 - 2014-12-12 21:59:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
OP I just looked at your killboard, you are either the greatest PVPer in this game or you choose your fights wisely just like the people you are accusing of running from a fight because of the reasons you wanted to make up in your head.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Mashie Saldana
I'm Sorry Shoot What?
WE FORM V0LTA
#52 - 2014-12-12 22:25:03 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
OP I just looked at your killboard, you are either the greatest PVPer in this game or you choose your fights wisely just like the people you are accusing of running from a fight because of the reasons you wanted to make up in your head.


Greatest pvper? What are you talking about? You know people like Dalikah? :)

I just lost a comet today because I turned on my reps too late..derp.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#53 - 2014-12-12 22:27:02 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:

Every now and then we would get a Nintendo or computer game and I would try it out before my brothers do. After I crash and burn, I'd be #1 on the high score list because no one else has played the game, and I would put in my three-letter name proudly.

Not even a day would go by and my brothers would kick me off the computer and play the game over and over until they wipe my name off the scoreboard completely, as if I never existed.

EVE is a game. People love high scores and they obsess over them. Isn't that an ok thing to do for something that's essentially entertainment?

Find file with highscores.
Edit names and numbers.


Win.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-12-12 22:30:09 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Find file with highscores.
Edit names and numbers.


Win.


Well that's hard to do if someone is sitting on you after wrestling you to the ground..

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Paranoid Loyd
#55 - 2014-12-12 22:33:21 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
OP I just looked at your killboard, you are either the greatest PVPer in this game or you choose your fights wisely just like the people you are accusing of running from a fight because of the reasons you wanted to make up in your head.


Greatest pvper? What are you talking about? You know people like Dalikah? :)

I just lost a comet today because I turned on my reps too late..derp.

You either completely missed my point or chose to ignore it.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#56 - 2014-12-12 22:35:20 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
Find file with highscores.
Edit names and numbers.


Win.


Well that's hard to do if someone is sitting on you after wrestling you to the ground..

I have waaaayyyy too many responses for this one ...

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Mashie Saldana
I'm Sorry Shoot What?
WE FORM V0LTA
#57 - 2014-12-12 22:39:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mashie Saldana
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
OP I just looked at your killboard, you are either the greatest PVPer in this game or you choose your fights wisely just like the people you are accusing of running from a fight because of the reasons you wanted to make up in your head.


Greatest pvper? What are you talking about? You know people like Dalikah? :)

I just lost a comet today because I turned on my reps too late..derp.

You either completely missed my point or chose to ignore it.


So why am I, in your opinion, one of the best pvpers?

You can have 10 000 kills and 100 deaths but if most of the kills were blobs, it doesn't mean you're good.

Most of my small gang/solo pvp kills are from 2014, and my K/D ratio and all isn't that awesome.
Yes, after you spend years in low you learn how to fit and fly ships well, so getting small gang/solo kills isn't that hard.

Instead of suicide ganking visit us dirty pirates in low :) You might like it.

And yes, I do know how to pick up fights. I don't fight blobs when I'm alone and I don't fight super fast kity ships and worms when I'm alone, but comets, firetails etc are pretty fair fights. Hell even a tristan can kill a comet with its neuts.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#58 - 2014-12-12 22:42:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol Project
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
OP I just looked at your killboard, you are either the greatest PVPer in this game or you choose your fights wisely just like the people you are accusing of running from a fight because of the reasons you wanted to make up in your head.


Greatest pvper? What are you talking about? You know people like Dalikah? :)

I just lost a comet today because I turned on my reps too late..derp.

You either completely missed my point or chose to ignore it.


So why am I, in your opinion, one of the best pvpers?

You can have 10 000 kills and 100 deaths but if most of the kills were blobs, it doesn't mean you're good.

Most of my small gang/solo pvp kills are from 2014, and my K/D ratio and all isn't that awesome.
Yes, after you spend years in low you learn how to fit and fly ships well, so getting small gang/solo kills isn't that hard.

Instead of suicide ganking visit us dirty pirates in low :) You might like it.

Where to go?
In the spirit of your thread, I refuse to look up the information on your killboard.

Please answer my questions, though:

Do you mind combat probing 1400mm Tornados with the occasional cloak?

Do you feel bothered by people who suddenly decloak and jam your side of the fight,
while completely ignoring your enemies?

Do you talk in local a lot?

Are you recruiting?

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#59 - 2014-12-12 22:45:39 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Out of all the possible reasons you could find to justify why EVE combat pilots are so risk averse, KBs are near to number one.

They're the bane of the game.

Mr Epeen Cool


Agreed. Can't fly anything expensive, or else, 'zomg killboard!!!!!!!'... So what's the point of having nice things in EVE?...

Been around since the beginning.

Mashie Saldana
I'm Sorry Shoot What?
WE FORM V0LTA
#60 - 2014-12-12 22:50:02 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
OP I just looked at your killboard, you are either the greatest PVPer in this game or you choose your fights wisely just like the people you are accusing of running from a fight because of the reasons you wanted to make up in your head.


Greatest pvper? What are you talking about? You know people like Dalikah? :)

I just lost a comet today because I turned on my reps too late..derp.

You either completely missed my point or chose to ignore it.


So why am I, in your opinion, one of the best pvpers?

You can have 10 000 kills and 100 deaths but if most of the kills were blobs, it doesn't mean you're good.

Most of my small gang/solo pvp kills are from 2014, and my K/D ratio and all isn't that awesome.
Yes, after you spend years in low you learn how to fit and fly ships well, so getting small gang/solo kills isn't that hard.

Instead of suicide ganking visit us dirty pirates in low :) You might like it.

Where to go?
In the spirit of your thread, I refuse to look up the information on your killboard.

Please answer my questions, though:

Do you mind combat probing 1400mm Tornados with the occasional cloak?

Do you feel bothered by people who suddenly decloak and jam your side of the fight,
while completely ignoring your enemies?

Do you talk in local a lot?

Are you recruiting?


I don't probe in faction frigates

No one has ever decloaked and jammed me in a plex

I talk in local when I feel like it

If we're recruiting? Warp to cyno is a great alliance and we are a great corp full of brave men, so if you feel like joining, sure.