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Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#101 - 2015-06-09 07:58:35 UTC
Guys, you have put lot of valuable notes on this site, but I have to admit I have problems to get my head around this.

It looks like one of the ways of doing the site is to:

a) hack the calibration units and use coordinates to power up the LOW rift
b) hack all the cans in the warp-in area for loot.
c) use rift to get to the tractor room and hack the defence unit to deactivate the sentry in the tractor area
d) warp away and back to get back to the starting place and fail the remote defence to get the clouds up and de-aggro the sentries
e) get to tractor area, hack tractor and do the cans that are pulled in
f) use rift to the hidden room and hack the VISIBLE cans (no hidden cans as they were pulled by the tractor?)


What I am thinking about is perhaps this is the way that will give you more loot in less time pressure, but can be potentially dangerous. Perhaps there is safer way, but with more time pressure so you wont get all the loot.

Would you think this way would work?

a) warp in, hack the calibration unit and power up the HIGH rift
b) hack all the cans in the warp-in area for loot.
c) hack the remote defense unit (it says it deactivated sentries farther from you , but activated one nearer e.g. sentries in hidden room are deactivated and sentry in tractor room activated)
d) use rift to the hidden room and hack as many cans as possible extending the selfdestruct with the defense unit.

What do you think? I am still hesitant to risk my Astero even though I have three BPC's sitting in my hangar. I guess I will try to use Stratios to test this theory, but have you tried it?
Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#102 - 2015-06-11 07:50:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Shon Anzomi
Ok, I found the site yesterday and did it following way:

1. Hacked the cans in the warp-in area excluding the remote sentry defence
2. Hacked the coordinates units and activated the LOW rift.
3. Used rift to get to the tractor unit and hacked the remote defense. That deactivated sentry in tractor area.
4. Hacked tractor which started pulling cans.
5. Warped away and back to site (dont forget to BM the site!)
6. Hacked the remote defence unit in warp - in area - that deactivated one of the sentries at far end of the site. The sentry at tractor area did not reappear.
7. Hacked the coordinates units again and used the coordinates to power up the HIGH power rift.
8. Used rift to get to the hidden loot area and used remote sentry unit to deactivate sentries in that part of site. Another sentry spawned in the middle of the site, but it did not agress.

The hidden loot area did not have any containers hidden there - tractor has pulled six out and I did not find any other. Not sure if any are supposed to be there

9. Burned to the tractor area and looted all the cans.

So with one warp out/in the site can be done without any failed hacks or toxic clouds. Very very safe for tanked Stratios ( I have around 36kEHP and 68%resists) but perhaps if I changed the routine a bit it could be done with AB Astero. MWD Astero would most likely get out of range at 2km/s.

Any thoughts on this?
My thoughts are that this site is actually tougher for Astero pilot than the Superior site. If you omit the mine room and archive you will still get much more loot from the Superior site at no risk whatsoever. I pulled around 86million in loot and perhaps another 100-130 can be made from BPC's but it is considerable time investment.

The coordinate units can be "farmed" for coordinates as they re-activate after some time. I have actually used some coordinates from site I found few days ago. So it may be a good idea to carry some coords on you if you want to run this site in lower security regions.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#103 - 2015-06-11 08:13:19 UTC
Shon Anzomi wrote:
The hidden loot area did not have any containers hidden there - tractor has pulled six out and I did not find any other. Not sure if any are supposed to be there

Hidden loot area? The one that is accesable by high warp rift? If you activated tractor first there won't be any cans. Tractore pulled them from there.
There is another hidden area, if you fail to hack defense unit several time, and guardian spawns. Warp rift emerges in the middle of the site near tractor beam.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville

Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#104 - 2015-06-11 08:16:54 UTC
Ah, all right. and where that rift goes? Still on grid or somewhere else completely?
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#105 - 2015-06-11 08:40:32 UTC
Shon Anzomi wrote:
Ah, all right. and where that rift goes? Still on grid or somewhere else completely?

Completely off the grid. There will be 4 cans with timer and timer reseter.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville

Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#106 - 2015-06-18 21:16:06 UTC
I tried failing the remote defence unit to get the clouds and the sentries still aggroed on me. Didnt work as expected at all.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#107 - 2015-06-29 06:26:37 UTC
Shon Anzomi wrote:
I tried failing the remote defence unit to get the clouds and the sentries still aggroed on me. Didnt work as expected at all.

There must be a message about spawn of the sentries (big cloaked one from the entering rift). It will require failing few hacks. In the meantime sentries on grid will still be active and shooting you.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville

Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#108 - 2015-06-29 08:36:55 UTC
Yes, I did fail the remote defence hack, I think I needed good 5-6 times. Then the gas clouds spawned. I warped away and back and tried the tractor beam area. But the sentries from enclave area were smoking me like mad still and I had no way of countering them since they were in the

On anoother occasion I tried to do the site I actually did the first remote hack which despawned one sentry from the enclave and activated one in tractor area. Then I hacked the tractor area defense unit and tractor itself. Then I warped away and back and voi-la the sentries were locked onto the tractor beam and stopped agressing me.

So I could easily do the tractor beam area cans and then I could burn to the remote defense unit in the enclave area and fail it to get the clouds and hidden loot area rift.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#109 - 2015-07-05 02:49:55 UTC
Shon Anzomi wrote:
I tried failing the remote defence unit to get the clouds and the sentries still aggroed on me. Didnt work as expected at all.
I think the sentries are going to attack you UNTIL you hack the tractor beam defense unit and THEN warp off or prop mode >50km away. You will need to be able to tank the damage until then.
Shon Anzomi
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#110 - 2015-07-06 09:54:57 UTC
Thats exactly what I did. I did hack the defense unit in the tractor area, warped off, returned to the start point, fail the defence unit there, warped off...

Upon arrival, there were clouds everywhere, tractor beam area was clear and three turrets in the sleeper enclave area all having a go at me. But that was once. I adjusted tactics since then.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#111 - 2015-10-01 14:48:37 UTC
Standard Cache Tip: If you screw up and hack the defense units in the calibration area without generating the hidden room rift -> you can fail the defense unit in the remote tower area after clearing the tractor area to generate the rift.