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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#321 - 2011-11-30 06:01:20 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Zoe Alarhun wrote:
Poor CCP. They get yelled at for old font. They change it, allowing player feedback every step of the way. Font goes live. They get yelled at again.

Seriously people ?


A month ago they had to explain that there wouldn't be an option to use the old font.

Alarms should have been ringing.

Right now I should be messing around with my new tornado and exploring the new nebulae while seeing how long I can make my engine trails.

Instead I'm spending hours messing around with my UI and searching the net for clientside font hacks while keeping an eye out for any dev response.



yep. NEWFONT sours what would otherwise be a wondeful expansion....

It's like you've got this wonderful pie, with hand-made crust, and fresh fruit and sugar on the inside, a scoop of perfect home-made ice-cream dolloped on top, and then right when they hand it to you, a rabid monkey slings his ass-fruit all over it....

Sad

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#322 - 2011-11-30 06:02:06 UTC
Vachir Khan wrote:
Zoe Alarhun wrote:
Poor CCP. They get yelled at for old font. They change it, allowing player feedback every step of the way. Font goes live. They get yelled at again.

Seriously people ?


Which part of "there is a huge thread on the test server forum about people not liking the font, but CCP couldn't be bothered to react to it" didn't you get?


some people can't be arsed to read the thread....

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#323 - 2011-11-30 06:02:35 UTC
Kasha Belle wrote:
It's a mess I'm afraid. I too solely focused on this scaling clusterbork when I should've been checking out all the new glittery baubles. Sigh. This font looks like the lettering for birthday cards - Comic Sans is indeed the basis for it; or at least it's inspiration. Not a good start sorry. Not SciFi at all.

This though gets me:
Quote:
It's readable.......
. OFC it's readable -it's bigger with wider spacing. Stupid. It also takes up more space. Less screen to see spaceships. Grrrrr.......

I'm sure CCP will fix this. What a shame.


some folks just miss the point.

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Kasha Belle
On your Left you will See Mars
#324 - 2011-11-30 06:02:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Kasha Belle
XavierVE wrote:
I complained earlier, but then I turned down the UI scaling to 90% and decreased the font size by one in every chat window.

Now it's pretty awesome, actually. 90% scaled UI + font size -1 = sweet spot.


Your Ipad?? Mobile Phone?? 25000 seat multiplex?? plain old PC??


Ris Dnalor stop it!!!
Bryant21
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#325 - 2011-11-30 06:03:40 UTC
Came here to read feedback on font. Instead see pages of Ris Dnalor posting 2-3 times in a row. Ha.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#326 - 2011-11-30 06:04:25 UTC
Billy Colorado wrote:
@Ris Dnalor I can't wait 'till you quit.

@CCP Thank you for the new font. I didn't realize I hated the old one until you presented me with this. Another small thing in the heap of win that is Crucible.



getting what you want, shouldn't cost other people what they want. Just like CQ didn't have to cost ship-spinning.


They could've solved the problem without creating more, and they chose not to.


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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#327 - 2011-11-30 06:05:05 UTC
Hiryu Jin wrote:
I actually had to stop playing. The new font gave me a massive headache. I don't know if it's the font itself, or maybe just not used to it, but I couldn't take it anymore and closed the game.



people not being able to play with the new expansion is bad. :(

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Amber Green Thorn
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#328 - 2011-11-30 06:07:14 UTC
Ris Dnalor - give us a break purlease.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#329 - 2011-11-30 06:08:16 UTC
Billy Colorado wrote:
Ris, you are a tidal wave of tantrum.

What do you LIKE about Crucible.


THere's lots of things I like about crucible, but I can't see them because they're covered with monkey-poo NEWFONT ... In fact aside from the fact I would've liked a tier 3 missile BC ( but I can live without it ) -- I absolutely love everything about Cruicible.


Problem is I can't try them out or play them because NEWFONT makes me hate playing the game.... It makes my skin crawl... It's like I walked into an alternate universe where Punky-Brewster is frozen at age 12 and is now in charge of the CCP FONT DEPARTMENT>>>>>>


Bring back OLDFONT

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#330 - 2011-11-30 06:09:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
[You dont have your UI scaled to 90% though.
Yes I do.
Quote:
If i had the resolution you have i doubt i would use UI scaling
Heh. Trust me, it works almost exactly the other way around: the more resolution you have the more you're jonseing for moar(!!) real-estate. Twisted
Quote:
Its not hard fella.
No, it is indeed not hard: I have the same down-scaling you do on top of having smaller pixels, and I am also not having the issues you're having… so why are you?

Providing more options to fit more scenarios is progress.
Fixing some very glaring and very old readability issues is progress.


I had no readability issues with the old font... so why did you?

Ill be happier with 90% if it didnt scale the icons on the overview and in space.

This will not fix the abhorrent font itself and the way it looks a mess in general but in particular in the tabs. But lets not say anything about it right tippia, WE GET WHAT WERE GIVEN AND WELL LIKE IT! yeah? We might as well shut up and fall into line as consumer drones i guess, queen tippia.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#331 - 2011-11-30 06:10:58 UTC
Eben Harper wrote:
I for one like the new font, thank you CCP. Shocked


yea, thank them for pleasing you and a few others, but completely disregarding the folks that don't want the change.


Thank em for CQ without ship-spin and MONOCLES as well while you're at it, because that cost them revenue, and forced them to lay off people, which ultimately led to less dev dollars for DUST and WOD mmo which could've solidified their income base even more, making eve better and better funded.


yea thank em for the short-sightedness that'll ultimately cause them to force you to go play another game when they break what YOU love and tell you to **** off when you complain.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#332 - 2011-11-30 06:12:27 UTC
Kasha Belle wrote:
XavierVE wrote:
I complained earlier, but then I turned down the UI scaling to 90% and decreased the font size by one in every chat window.

Now it's pretty awesome, actually. 90% scaled UI + font size -1 = sweet spot.


Your Ipad?? Mobile Phone?? 25000 seat multiplex?? plain old PC??


Ris Dnalor stop it!!!


;(

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#333 - 2011-11-30 06:13:19 UTC
Amber Green Thorn wrote:
Ris Dnalor - give us a break purlease.


I'm just reading every post and responding... doing my part.


*sigh*

ok, i'll give it a rest --- but i'll be back

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#334 - 2011-11-30 06:16:39 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
I had no readability issues with the old font... so why did you?
Possibly because I read the text and noticed the lack of distinction between many of the glyphs.
Quote:
Ill be happier with 90% if it didnt scale the icons on the overview and in space.
…which once again hints at scaling being the issue (or the granularity of it), not the font.
Quote:
This will not fix the abhorrent font itself
And I once again have to ask: what's so abhorrent about the font?
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#335 - 2011-11-30 06:29:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Tippia wrote:
Possibly because I read the text and noticed the lack of distinction between many of the glyphs.


I just read the text. With no problem. Never a miscommunication so to speak.

Tippia wrote:
…which once again hints at scaling being the issue (or the granularity of it), not the font.


No, there is NO NEED to scale icons. Doing so will inevitably result in scaling artefacts. Redrawing them for a scaled down UI would be the only realistic option.

Tippia wrote:
And I once again have to ask: what's so abhorrent about the font?


Well, basically, its just not as nice as the old one. Looks cluttered on screen. I liked the order of the upper-case in the tabs too, and contrary to what you may believe i had no issues reading it lol.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#336 - 2011-11-30 06:33:36 UTC
It seems that we have also fixed width numbers now and the chat's pilot list font is smaller by the default.
Not sure were these in initial crucible version or not... at least they have been recently fixed.

Getting better every day - thank you.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

Kordoc
Death Metal Rooster
#337 - 2011-11-30 06:43:50 UTC
Crybabies. Go shoot a statue. Roll
Zarutha
The Night Crew
#338 - 2011-11-30 06:46:00 UTC
Up with old font!

Down with pants!
Phoebus Raszamar
Valkyria Epsilon
#339 - 2011-11-30 07:03:05 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Amber Green Thorn wrote:
Ris Dnalor - give us a break purlease.


I'm just reading every post and responding... doing my part.


*sigh*

ok, i'll give it a rest --- but i'll be back



*Salutes

Funny thread.

[i]One thing that intimidates me is not being able to understand what I should be able to understand - or at least, people telling me what I can or cannot understand. [/i]

William Loire
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#340 - 2011-11-30 07:05:35 UTC
I'm simply wondering why the old font couldn't have been modified for clarity rather than simply turning the entire thing into Comic Sans MS?