Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello, here is a discussion about T3 Frigates now that we see more of what CCP is trying to do with T3 ships.

T3 Cruisers have subsystems
T3 Destroyers have modes

What will T3 Frigates look like?

Following this formula we can suspect that T3 Frigates will not be like their cruiser or destroyer counter part but be something unique as the destroyer is unique to the cruiser.

Let us look at the benefits of frigates and see what we may discern from a tier 3 version.

1. Frigates go fast
2. Frigates get there before you
3. Frigates stop you from going any where.
4. Frigates go faster than you.

I propose then that the T3 Frigate be something different, bear with me here.


T3 Frigates will have the following capacity:

1. Can switch mods in space without the need of a mobile unit.
2. Can microwarp jump short distances as defined by the pilot.
3. Can jump short distances (2ly) between systems without a cyno, as a result can thus jump through high sec.

Expansion:
1. Frigates are little tiny knives of death, generally speaking, they offer a ton of variety and mixture to fleets. Having the ability to switch mods during a fight (possibly with a cool down or cap use), will give added strength to dog fights and the general role of frigates. If a mod is on or cooling down it cannot be switched. If a mod is broken it cannot be replaced so be careful.

2. Microwarp jumping short distances 25-100km will enhance the tackle nature of frigates, giving them ability to catch strangers looking to run from them, while also burning an immense amount of cap and causing a large cool down on the mod.

3. All ships require a cyno to light, cyno lighting is illegal in high-sec but many places are less than 2ly away from each other. Having the capacity for frigates to jump themselves without a cyno will make hit and run warfare all the more meaningful and will give an added excitement to high and null sec alike when systems are close together enough to jump between them.


I like this thread more than the other thread. Let me know what you think.

You slather spite upon me without even telling me why.

Jump Drive capable frigates...

Can sneak around gate camps and do guerrilla warfare tactics, sneaking about, surprising the enemy, creating warp in points. really what isn't to love! tell me!

No, no. I was just looking at that new map and thinking how wonderful it'd be to jumpdrive around high sec in a frigate.

There's so much to love about it that it is unrealistic... I believe the jump drive module in capital ships is larger than a frigate itself. Also it would be too overpowered. Imagine a fleet of frigate that suddenly hotdrop on top of you...

My reason for calling your post foolish, is because it is just too unrealistic, and it doesn't bring any constructive content for the game.

Edit: Besides... I don't think anything constructive comes from newer players such as yourself. because you don't have any experience in the game mechanics.
Play the game for atleast 1 year, then I'll maybe listen to you.

In know way do I agree with Celt on this. There is no reason to assume that just because a pilot isn't deeply versed in EVE they can't have good ideas. The lack of constructive comments in this thread is not the fault of the OP. This idea may not be sound but there is no reason to assume that other future ideas won't be.

I agree here, whilst I pointed out faults in the idea I'd never discourage someone from posting ideas. It's a good point that new folks won't understand much of the mechanics but every now and then someone may come up with a left field idea that really could make a difference to things. Better to let new players know why something won't work so that they learn

T3 Destroyers are different because T3 Cruisers Subsystems simply don't work.
If T3 Destroyers are successful in taking the intended spot of T3 in the Meta (Not as powerful as the correct T2, but far more versatile) expect to see T3 Cruisers rebalanced to use the same kind of modes rather than the current terribly OP/UP Subsystems depending on the combinations/roles you use.

Until we see how T3 Destroyers work or don't, talk of any other T3 ships are simply a joke.

Not sure we can support jump drives in frigs, I remember when Jump drives were more advanced and we could jump farther and didn't have fatigue. Something tells me we should be able to rediscover that tech before we can figure out how to get the current tech into the size of a frig when it doesn't even fit in a cruiser yet.

AoE Shield generators.

How about some sort of swarm/cluster mode whereby friendly T3 frigs can choose one of various bonuses if they are in close proximity to one another at the expense of manoeuvrability. Similar of course to what you can already do with remote effects but without the faff/targeting/slot use. You'd have to balance the bonus vs. penalty and limit the maximum bonus to stop fleets exploiting it, but could work.