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Frig sized shattered wormholes

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Harry Stampernox
Cluelix
Wrecktical Supremacy.
#1 - 2014-12-10 14:59:19 UTC
I have an intense interest in frig/destroyer limited wormholes. I was wondering if anyone has found them and what their experience with them are?

Since there is no moons there is no pos's which means no where is particularly safe but you could in theory live out of a mobile depot. Is this viable?
Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
#2 - 2014-12-10 15:10:46 UTC
Harry Stampernox wrote:
I have an intense interest in frig/destroyer limited wormholes. I was wondering if anyone has found them and what their experience with them are?

Since there is no moons there is no pos's which means no where is particularly safe but you could in theory live out of a mobile depot. Is this viable?


I found one. Went in there to gaze upon some ice fields (they are HUUUUGE!). Then I left again because, frankly, meah frigates
Nitris Denitrace
WeebFleet
Tsundere Triad
#3 - 2014-12-10 15:24:37 UTC
We just found a shattered wormhole last night. Since none of us had ever seen one and had no idea what they did, we immediately formed up in Lazerhawk's newbro destroyer doctorine (Lazyhawks) and headed out. When we started to jump in, our Augorors let us know it was a frig hole. Woops vOv

We started bouncing around and looking at the big broken planets. We shot up the Epicenter, which is this weird construct at the sun that has violent wormholes that you can't go through. After figuring out we were able to dunk on the sleepers even without Augoror support, we said **** it and started warping to combat sites. The next fifteen minutes was just us laughing our asses off as we blew every sleeper nerd in that system off the face of the universe without losing a single Lazyhawk Catalyst.

We bounced around, discussed some lore things, pointed out the weird stuff at the epicenter and of course we shot the violent wormholes. It was a very COF night. No idea what we were doing, not sure if we actually accomplished anything but it didn't matter because good times were had.
Jerod Hakuli
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#4 - 2014-12-10 19:37:36 UTC
Found one today. Wondering why they put ice belts in them since you can't bring a mining barge inside.
ArchAngael
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-12-10 21:03:32 UTC
Jerod Hakuli wrote:
Found one today. Wondering why they put ice belts in them since you can't bring a mining barge inside.


Ventures and prospects should fit in there.

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-12-10 21:06:06 UTC
whenever i find a frig hole i do what i always do. BM it as 'Frig', dont jump it, move on.

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Jerod Hakuli
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#7 - 2014-12-10 21:16:01 UTC
ArchAngael wrote:
Jerod Hakuli wrote:
Found one today. Wondering why they put ice belts in them since you can't bring a mining barge inside.


Ventures and prospects should fit in there.


you can't mine ice in those
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#8 - 2014-12-10 21:38:25 UTC
they plan to release in not long future ice mining lasers for prospect/venture so be patient. we will be able to mine them
ArchAngael
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-12-10 23:23:30 UTC
Jerod Hakuli wrote:
ArchAngael wrote:
Jerod Hakuli wrote:
Found one today. Wondering why they put ice belts in them since you can't bring a mining barge inside.


Ventures and prospects should fit in there.


you can't mine ice in those


Ugh. Never tried it so, learned something today.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-12-11 02:38:58 UTC
Jerod Hakuli wrote:
Found one today. Wondering why they put ice belts in them since you can't bring a mining barge inside.


Huh, that is kinda silly. Either someone at CCP was sleeping when designing these, or basic ice harvesting modules are coming for the mining frigates :D

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Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#11 - 2014-12-11 03:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
Jack Miton wrote:
whenever i find a frig hole i do what i always do. BM it as 'Frig', dont jump it, move on.

We agreed about frigate holes in the previous thread, but I am reversing my stance towards frigate holes when they are Shattered Systems. Those C6 Wolf Rayet bonuses are just too crazy to pass by.

We cleared the sites off of one of these (had C3 sites) today, and I have never had as much fun in PvE. We took our standard PvP Assault Frigates in and just blitzed trough the sleepers with not a care in the world.

I like it when I can do my carebearing in the same ship I use for harvesting corpses.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#12 - 2014-12-11 03:11:12 UTC
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2014-12-11 05:15:11 UTC
ArchAngael wrote:
Jerod Hakuli wrote:
Found one today. Wondering why they put ice belts in them since you can't bring a mining barge inside.


Ventures and prospects should fit in there.

Ice works differently than ore. Ice miners are strip miners, and thus only fit on barges/exhumers, and each cycle produces one ice chunk with bonuses reducing time rather than increasing yield.


Hopefully, at some point, they change ice to work like ore, so we can have ice mining turrets that we can put on Ventures/Prospect or other, random ships.
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On a side note, do the Wolf Rayet effects affect small drones? (as in if I run across one of these in an astero, will it be of any use?)
I am guessing no, but want to verify.
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#14 - 2014-12-11 05:38:51 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
On a side note, do the Wolf Rayet effects affect small drones? (as in if I run across one of these in an astero, will it be of any use?)
I am guessing no, but want to verify.

Nope. Amusingly, the bonuses DO work on rapid light missile launchers, which creates some fairly interesting possibilities.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-12-11 12:14:44 UTC
As to ice in these systems, I think there is ice in every shattered wormhole (or most of them anyways), and IIRC only 25% of them are frig systems.

So, I wouldn't bet on getting ice miners for ORE frigs or whatnot.
Sundial Hakaari
Leshak Bros. Wrecking and Towing Inc.
#16 - 2014-12-11 17:22:40 UTC
Some corp mates and I moved into one of them with a bunch of alts with mobile depots. Seems to have 3 statics with different static naming conventions: Letter 00 Number. For example C005. We got C2, C5, and nullsec statics. Living in there for 2 days I have seen literally no one that I did not invite in, not even scanner probes.

Ran a bunch of combat sites in my Wolf, you can literally speed tank 99% of the damage from cruisers and battleships and frigates evaporate because C6 wolf Rayet.

There are C6 gas sites present with 4 sleeper battleships that spawn in them. Yay nanoribbons.

It doesn't make sense to use them as a base of operations for raiding nullsec with frigates unfortunately as you can't have a POS to store fit ships which limits you to the ship you are currently in.

I am kinda disappointed that the frig holes don't have at least 1 static to other frig holes as frigates are fairly useless in normal wormholes for anything of value. You can do awesome stuff with frigates in these holes but once you leave you are fairly useless.
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#17 - 2014-12-11 21:27:17 UTC
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all of the frig sized new wormholes have a C6 Wolf Rayet effect that favors armor over shield?
Sundial Hakaari
Leshak Bros. Wrecking and Towing Inc.
#18 - 2014-12-11 21:57:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Sundial Hakaari
scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all of the frig sized new wormholes have a C6 Wolf Rayet effect that favors armor over shield?


Yes. I checked and armor is definitely doubled. However, I couldn't tell if shield resistances actually were halved from my fitting screen. It certainly didn't look like it, I will check again in a few hours. I definitely did notice the sleepers were having a tough time tracking me so I would say the half signature radius is in effect. The triple damage on small weapons is there as well.

EDIT:

Shield resistances are definitely cut in half.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#19 - 2014-12-12 00:46:38 UTC
yes ice in all shattered holes including Thera. I brought up the issue of mining in the 25 frig only holes and after about a week of me poking ccp in various threads and twitter got a 'this is by design' reply.

So that indicates something in the works in the future that can mine it. My guess is either they are doing a mining revamp which includes changing the ice, or adding a new mining laser for ice that a venture can mine ice. Or possible a T3 frig that can ice mine, but who knows

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Sending Thots And Players
#20 - 2014-12-12 00:52:53 UTC
possibly a Weight Watchers rig for Hulks and mackinaws that thins their waistline and lets them jump through a frigate hole.
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