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Escape from Damnation

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Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#41 - 2011-11-30 11:13:50 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
You know, usually I'd mourn the loss of a Minmatar tribesman to the barbarity and squalor of the Amarr Empire.

But you know what, guys?

You can have this one.



Pretty much my feeling at this point. Not to sound mean Spes, but you are gonna end with nobody wanting you, if you keep this up.

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim

Kentt Em'asep
Clone Red Creations
#42 - 2011-11-30 11:49:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Kentt Em'asep
Kalaratiri wrote:
Pretty much my feeling at this point. Not to sound mean Spes, but you are gonna end with nobody wanting you, if you keep this up.


Indeed... that does seem to be the direction this is going unless someone decides to teach him. Be that either that us Matari folk are not just random merry bands of thugs, or his old Amarr friends decide to teach him how to properly learn his place in their little empire.

When I had stopped my talking and took a step back to simply observe, there is something about him that's just... entertaining. I don't think though that that is the right word for it, but it's in the general neighborhood. It's not intended to sound rude, but the word is at the tip of my tougue.

~"That's right. Today, tomorrow, the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that... from here on until forever, every time you look at my avatar - you'll see this scowl."~

~"Forever?"~

~"Yes - forever. It's what I do."~

Half Cocked Jack
Un4seen Development
Goonswarm Federation
#43 - 2011-11-30 15:31:55 UTC
Let me try this again. Communications channels are unreliable where I currently am, although I suppose this just goes to prove how much I believe in the advice I'm about to give you. I can't devote much time to this message, as I'm participating in an indigenous whaling custom soon.

The next time I am in pod, I will contract you a shuttle. My advice to you: go away. Leave this monochromatic maelstrom that has become so typical for Imperial-Republican combative culture. Explore backwater systems that are disconnected from the banalities of the mainstream--or leave the polities entirely--and practice the art of observing, engaging, studying, and generally getting-to-know humanity as it really is in its many diverse forms. In the process, you will get to know yourself.

Nobody else can offer you absolution for your sins. If anyone claims they can, they are in worse shape than you. For your past, God forgives you. I forgive you. But that matters naught unless you can forgive yourself. What you need is the time and space necessary to reflect upon your life, contemplate your self, and cultivate your soul. As long as you are reacting to the whims of others...as long as you are trying to find a place in some other grand scheme, you will always be a slave. And don't be hasty about settling on your ultimate role in life. It is only an easy choice to a slave. Commitment to an ongoing journey of self discovery and cultivation is the greatest penance for the sinner and the best way to to attain mastery over one's self. All you need is patience, volition, paths to travel, and a good pair of boots.

In short, you don't need a place or a station--you need a journey. And you don't need salvation. It is already offered to you with an open hand if you'll just grasp it. This advice may mean nothing to you--but if you are asking for help, this is what I have to offer. It worked for me.
Mikkel Lybecker
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2011-11-30 16:17:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mikkel Lybecker
Half Cocked Jack wrote:


In short, you don't need a place or a station--you need a journey.


Yeah, a journey to prison.

Let's not get too touchy-feely here with the "look deep within yourself" routine. Remember this person murdered a bunch of people, not just holders but children, who weren't enslaving him or doing anything bad but just happened to be there. The way I see it, he's got two choices:

1. Accept that he is murdering scum and not worthy of salvation or anything else. Live the rest of his life as an outcast, despised by all, even pirates (if there's one thing they hate it's thieves within their own).

2. Atone - properly. Go directly to jail. Do not pass market hubs, do not collect 200 ISK.

The other possibility is he's lying, which is just like 1. except instead of hating him because he's a murdering thief, everyone is going to hate him because he's a liar, and not just a liar, but a stupid liar, because you have to be pretty dumb to lie about something like what's he (possibly) lying about. In any event he either goes behind bars or I don't take him seriously.
Spes Aeternam
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-11-30 16:30:11 UTC
I do find it ironic that someone who has callously slaughtered hundreds of ships is calling me out for being a criminal. I've seen your kills and you can hardly consider half of them to be even legitimate, just pirating. This is why its important to have some filtering of whom you listen to.

It's been nearly a day since I have returned to Amarr space and have taken up to doing missions for the Amarr navy. I eagerly look forward to more chances to prove myself to the empire. Perhaps in time I'll be trusted well enough to join the 24th someday.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#46 - 2011-11-30 17:33:16 UTC
Spes Aeternam wrote:
Perhaps in time I'll be trusted well enough to join the 24th someday.


I sincerely hope so.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2011-11-30 17:35:19 UTC
Spes Aeternam wrote:
I do find it ironic that someone who has callously slaughtered hundreds of ships is calling me out for being a criminal.


I find it ironic that a bona fide murderer is moralising.

Spes Aeternam wrote:
Perhaps in time I'll be trusted well enough to join the 24th someday.


Oh, that'd be excellent! Then they could collapse even faster than they are right now.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#48 - 2011-11-30 18:07:04 UTC
Spes Aeternam wrote:
I do find it ironic that someone who has callously slaughtered hundreds of ships is calling me out for being a criminal. I've seen your kills and you can hardly consider half of them to be even legitimate, just pirating. This is why its important to have some filtering of whom you listen to.


Wait, what? Electus Matari, anti-pirate alliance, committing piracy? You guys have been holding out!

Spes, before making such accusations and making yourself sound even dumber, consider that piracy is defined as destroying the ship of someone who was otherwise oblivious to your evil intentions, and was occupied elsewise, most likely not in a combat manner. -EM- do not shoot neutral entities, and have an explicit and public list of entities they consider enemies, and who should be aware they will get shot on sight.

And in case you still consider yourself too superior to listen to anyone in this thread... I never thought I'd say this, but... Is there a fundamentalist Amarr in the house? Someone with a stick up their rear end, preferably? PIE? CVA? ...IPHAR?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Half Cocked Jack
Un4seen Development
Goonswarm Federation
#49 - 2011-12-01 00:12:56 UTC
I find my touchy-feelyness preferable to your unimaginative, tit-for-tat justice, Captain Lybecker. Personal freedom is not easy to earn, and there will almost always be casualties. Is this not what the entire confrontational stance the Republic adopts against the Empire is predicated on? We're all criminals in our own way, and I can guarantee I have been responsible for the deaths of more innocent men, women, and children than this Spes character, and I will not be turning myself over to any correctional facilities for crimes committed in the Republic...or the Empire for that matter.

His most recent comment renders the discussion moot, however. I'll not despise him because of his crimes, but I will despise him for being weak. A little lost puppy looking for a foot at which to heel...such a waste of a capsuleer.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#50 - 2011-12-01 01:06:27 UTC
Enjoy your few minutes in the sun Spes. I suspect that now that you've returned to the scene of your self-confessed crimes the imperial authorities will be most anxious to speak with you.

Oh well, you didn't want your potential offspring to be free for 9 generations anyway, did you?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Mikkel Lybecker
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2011-12-01 03:29:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Mikkel Lybecker
Anabella Rella wrote:
Enjoy your few minutes in the sun Spes. I suspect that now that you've returned to the scene of your self-confessed crimes the imperial authorities will be most anxious to speak with you.

Oh well, you didn't want your potential offspring to be free for 9 generations anyway, did you?


Yeah, don't worry - he's really not into that whole "freedom" thing, he's made that clear.

Ironically it's that very freedom he renounces that makes him free to post here. I suggest that if he really wants to be a slave he should start acting more like one.
Spes Aeternam
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2011-12-01 05:18:59 UTC
Good news!

It would appear as if none of my superiors would like to deal with me directly. Which, I couldn't blame them. I am practically a monster at this point. From the sounds of it, one that keeps bad little Matari awake at night.

But, It would seem like I do have an anonymous donor, providing all the auto-cannons and bullets I can imagine. He has been more than generous providing me with new guns and other equipment for one single task. I have been instructed to burn every Matari ship I come across, strait down to their frames. Slaughter ever single person aboard and assure no survivors.

I can't wait to get started, be a lesson for anyone who would dare to leave the empire for a life of sin like me. Salvation though 200mm rounds at a time! Better to burn alive in the lifeless void of space than spend eternity in hell for sins.
Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2011-12-01 06:54:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Uraniae Fehrnah
Ahh yes, now that makes all sorts of sense. You turn your back on your upbringing in the Faith, going so far as to murder your Holder and his family, fail to make any meaningful effort to learn of your Matari heritage, and return to the Empire as nothing more than a slightly remorseful dog who, in spite of all your professed regret and desire to atone, end up yipping and wagging your tail for the first person to buy you some toys and tell you everything will be alright if you go and take more lives.

I could easily echo the sentiments of some of the other Matari speaking up here and say you bring shame to your people and your blood, but I won't. I'm not Matari, I can't rightly claim to be ashamed of your words and actions. Shame wouldn't be the right term anyway, not with this most recent declaration to destroy every Matari ship you come across. No, shame is not what I feel, instead of shame, I'm rather offended that you are considering yourself one of the Amarrian Faithful. It is no less than utterly repugnant that you'll be flying around on a trek of murder and mayhem in the name of a God of which you have quite clearly failed to learn about.

At this point I no longer mourn for your slain Holder. If you are any indication of the products of his stewardship then he was clearly failing in his duty to you and to God.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#54 - 2011-12-01 07:09:13 UTC
What the hell are they teaching in the academies these days? What has happened to screening processes? If I had 100 isk for every 10 second old pilot to come in here either proclaiming to be a special snowflake, some kind of hardcore psycho killer, or the universe's savior I'd be a very wealthy man.

Instead of talking about how many Minmatar you plan to kill Pilot Aeternam you should first look up the word humility on your datapad, then attempt to practice it.

Or, continue yapping like an insufferable little dog until you **** someone off who will make it their personal quest to blow your (likely poorly fitted) ships and clones out of the skies as often as possible.
Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#55 - 2011-12-01 16:57:44 UTC
Spes Aeternam wrote:
Good news!

It would appear as if none of my superiors would like to deal with me directly. Which, I couldn't blame them. I am practically a monster at this point. From the sounds of it, one that keeps bad little Matari awake at night.

But, It would seem like I do have an anonymous donor, providing all the auto-cannons and bullets I can imagine. He has been more than generous providing me with new guns and other equipment for one single task. I have been instructed to burn every Matari ship I come across, strait down to their frames. Slaughter ever single person aboard and assure no survivors.

I can't wait to get started, be a lesson for anyone who would dare to leave the empire for a life of sin like me. Salvation though 200mm rounds at a time! Better to burn alive in the lifeless void of space than spend eternity in hell for sins.


Don't come after me. Don't come after my friends.

You'll float home.

I can't get rid of my darn signature!  Oh, wait....

Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#56 - 2011-12-01 17:21:22 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
Don't come after my friends.


Especially cos I'm willing to bet you've got more friends than him

She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.

This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums.  - CCP Falcon

I don't remember when last time you said something that wasn't either dumb or absurd. - Diana Kim

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#57 - 2011-12-01 17:34:01 UTC
Kalaratiri wrote:
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
Don't come after my friends.


Especially cos I'm willing to bet you've got more friends than him


I just noticed... are all you ladies in Teraa Matar tattooed?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Astrid Stjerna
Sebiestor Tribe
#58 - 2011-12-01 17:46:23 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Kalaratiri wrote:
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
Don't come after my friends.


Especially cos I'm willing to bet you've got more friends than him


I just noticed... are all you ladies in Teraa Matar tattooed?


It's not specific to Teraa Matar, but yes, most of us have tattoos.

I can't get rid of my darn signature!  Oh, wait....

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#59 - 2011-12-01 18:05:07 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:

It's not specific to Teraa Matar, but yes, most of us have tattoos.


That's pretty awesome. Too few people appreciate the value of the tribal tattoo.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#60 - 2011-12-01 18:14:53 UTC
Spes Aeternam wrote:
Good news!

It would appear as if none of my superiors would like to deal with me directly. Which, I couldn't blame them. I am practically a monster at this point. From the sounds of it, one that keeps bad little Matari awake at night.

But, It would seem like I do have an anonymous donor, providing all the auto-cannons and bullets I can imagine. He has been more than generous providing me with new guns and other equipment for one single task. I have been instructed to burn every Matari ship I come across, strait down to their frames. Slaughter ever single person aboard and assure no survivors.

I can't wait to get started, be a lesson for anyone who would dare to leave the empire for a life of sin like me. Salvation though 200mm rounds at a time! Better to burn alive in the lifeless void of space than spend eternity in hell for sins.




The worst little kids always make the most noise when trying to get the attention of adults.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.