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My Circadian Seeker Sleeper Phenomena Study

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Magus Lay Aurion
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-12-10 06:38:56 UTC
After studying an Unidentified Structure site that popped up near my home system in overview, I began to investigate with one Aerios Spiritus the strange new phenomenon of scavenging sleepers. They appeared after Rhea update and seem to be all over New Eden, from High Sec to Null, but in seemingly random locations. After some time studying, I have compiled an initial entry in my notepad, as well as the beginning of an image album recording my findings. A thread of our findings can be found centralized here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=390811 where many others are assisting our research. You can contact Aerios Spiritus or myself if you would like to assist us with information, post to either of our forum threads, join our research channel Rhea Sleepers, or send us mail/private convo. If the sites do not move, we plan on mapping as many of these sites as we can within high/low/null sec and, if observed, WH space.

Here are my raw notes as of 9 December 2014:

Circadian Roaming Sleepers, appear in overview location "Unidentified Structure" at seemingly random locations all across New Eden. My initial study is in Sotrentaira. The site is a beacon surrounded by grimy, dark clouds with static electricity 3 sleepers were active and were sending beams to the beacon with the overview label. After lengthy observation, these beams appear to be scanners. The sleepers and scan beams do no damage and cause no noticeable effect to it's target, but engage to seemingly random points in addition to noticeable points of interest, such as wrecks, the beacon, and my own ship. These beams also target empty space from time to time. Each sleeper uses up to two beams to scan. It is unknown whether they share their findings between each other or if each is an independant unit. It is also unknown whether these beams have an outcome that they mean to reach, as they will appear in this deadspace until they are destroyed.

Their movements hold no noticeable pattern as of yet, but they do hold a sense of self-preservation... sometimes. When a Circadian seeker is attacked, all three will move away from the threats and align to some safe location. From my observations, I have seen them move into deadspace and towards planets, stations, and asteroid belts. However, I could not track them because the ships do not register on D-scan. The ships can be jammed by scramblers, disruptors, and warp disruption bubbles to keep them from warping to safety and continue their search for shiny objects.

After following one for about half an hour, I cannot understand any sort of flight or search pattern. In groups, they stayed separated from each other, but seemed to focus on the same target of interest. For example, my first contact with them I noticed they all scanned the beacon, but when I came within firing range they all began scanning me. My first attack was with a long-range Raven armed with cruise missiles. My second attack was with a catalyst, high dps. Worked like a charm, used it to hold the final one down for study. Their explosions are quite violent and electrifying. Left to it's own devices, however, the sleeper proceeded to warp in and out of the site (with a rather violent warp sequence) and fuss about with no discernable agenda. Cargo scans show no salvage or items and it warps in at abut 30-40km from the structure, showing no reporting order. It almost seems confused. It's warp schedule varies around 5-6 minutes, depending on it's distance.

After maxing out the graphics, I found that there is a massive, crystalline structure that is the source of the lightning. The structure is cloaked and massive in scope, pulsing space around it and phasing in and out subtly. http://imgur.com/ADxqM6v projected model. It is the unidentified structure mentioned by the beacon. Did the sleepers lose it or are they here to return artifacts? No damage can be dealt to it, but it can be targeted. Attempts to scan it with a Buzzard cargo scanner found nothing in container. Attempts to get close enough to use T1 analyzers failed, as the closest approach/orbit distance was about 5200m. Attempts to ram into it, hoping to get close enough to bump the structure within analysis range, failed. Without T2 analyzers, I cannot see if it is possible to do so.

Cloaked observation of the sleeper revealed something startling: it's activity changed! When I was uncloaked, the sleeper would wander aimlessly, scanning items of interest (read: anything) and would warp off after 5 minutes. When I cloaked and it returned, the sleeper came to a halt, 0m/s, and did nothing for a good 6 minutes. No scan beams, no wandering, nothing. After 6 minutes, it aligned to something in deadspace and began scanning anything within 10km and wandered around between wrecks and the structure. I remained cloaked until it warped off 6 minutes later (mark 23 minutes) and returned to see what would happen if it sat there when I revealed myself. I waited until it's return, another 6 minutes, when It proceeded to scan a wreck and approach the tower. I believe it transmits data it collects on salvage and items to this tower, as it warps off shortly after giving it's information. I also noticed it bumps right into the tower, as the cloak distortions from it were causing color anomalies on the sleeper (like separating colors with 3D glasses). Revealing myself to it showed no effect, but when I began to move and scan it's cargo it whipped around and warped off like a podded capsuleer (6 minute time again). Bumping it with a mwd did not affect it's warp sequence.
Siegfried Tahl
STCorp
#2 - 2014-12-10 07:08:48 UTC
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2014-12-10 07:08:52 UTC
You can target the structure? I tried to find a spot where to do that but couldn't hit it. If that is possible, I'll have tests to run on one.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#4 - 2014-12-10 08:32:57 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
You can target the structure? I tried to find a spot where to do that but couldn't hit it. If that is possible, I'll have tests to run on one.

You can, but it's hard to find at times. First time I found it was bc the Sleeper was scanning the structure so I saw where its beam was hitting.

/c

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Noriko Mai
#5 - 2014-12-10 09:58:20 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
You can target the structure? I tried to find a spot where to do that but couldn't hit it. If that is possible, I'll have tests to run on one.

You can, but it's hard to find at times. First time I found it was bc the Sleeper was scanning the structure so I saw where its beam was hitting.

/c

Just add "Large Collidable Object" to overview.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein

mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-12-10 11:01:14 UTC
has anyone been able to scan them with D-Scan ? i just tried they dont show up, i right clicked sleeper to add to overview but its already added just lets me remove them? i was about 40 km away from them

i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

Virgil Nightingale
Zebra Corp
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-12-10 11:12:43 UTC
Seeing as how the ship is scanning, maybe try throwing some blue loot in your hull? Maybe its looking for all the sleeper data libraries that have been removed from its systems.
Serene Repose
#8 - 2014-12-10 11:15:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
"Drop a trail of peanuts and see if you can lure them to your campfire. Should you succeed, teach one the ukelele another the bongos, and another the guitar. Poke a surfboard into the ground and you have Waikiki. All you need now is a couple of well-filled bikinis." - Excerpt from Captain Cook's Exploring the South Pacific -

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Magus Lay Aurion
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-12-11 06:03:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Magus Lay Aurion
My journal on the Circadian Seeker Sleepers, entry #2, 10 December 2014/YC 116.

http://imgur.com/a/MvVA1 <-- This is my album of shots taken of these Circadian sleepers and the super structure. More will be updated as research continues.
Circadian Seekers, Unidentified Structures and other Rhea Anomalies <-- Here is a central link by the project lead, Aerios Spiritus, who has graciously compiled links and data made by Capsuleer and non-Capsuleer media and independent researchers.

I asked around the questions you have given me and have come up with answers. Abrazzar and Chribba, the super structure can be found as a Large Collidable Object in overview, or you can find where the sleepers scan seemingly random space (thank you Noriko Mai). mr ed thehouseofed, the sleepers and structure do not appear on D-scan, even with everything turned on overview. Virgil Nightingale, a man named Siegfried Tahl informed me that he tried to put such loot in a ship and entice the Circadian sleepers, but yielded no results out of the ordinary. He also confirmed my first entry's notes that they shut down for a period of time when cloaked (or when nobody is detected by the Circadian).

The question arose of why the Circadian sleepers have shields while their WH counter parts do not. I have a theory: Circadian sleepers are built to scavenge for new and interesting material in New Eden, which means they must be physically prepared for any natural dangers, such as radiation clouds or asteroids, and artificial dangers, like capsuleer guns.

The Sleepers in WH do not need shields because they are not designed for combat, they are designed for maintenance and were meant to be left alone. Shields require energy, which can be precious to those who wish to conserve it, such as whatever lives in the VR worlds on Sleeper strongholds. This may explain why these K-space super structures are suddenly becoming revealed, as the cloak and shields are obviously beginning to fail. Could they be simply running out of energy, or are Sleeper shields not up to par with New Eden standards?

Doubtful, but I would put my money on maintenance standards being not as well addressed as the WH variants. After all, their activity seems to be limited to search, explore, salvage, and scan. The Circadian design is not meant for extensive repair, as all mechanical arms are directed towards it's belly or it's side, merely mainpulator arms for whatever it collects. We are not seeing any other sleeper or drone design, which would make sense to limit their presence and maintain stealth to avoid conflict and collect what they want, but surely they could have sent stealthy repair drones to work within the super structure? It is not much of a stretch to make it work.

This does not add up. Either the K-space Sleeper presence is part of their agenda for something great that they want to share with us or they have a personality flaw that neglects their far-away structures. I wouldn't think of drones as lazy. Perhaps the scans and secrecy are because they are searching for something in particular, like something small and extremely dangerous to them, or they are collecting data for some mass invasion or different technology to fight the Jove Empire.

After CCP shut down the servers for an emergency reboot, and the server came online once more, I discovered that the Unidentified Structure returned to the same place they were at the night before. I know this because I had the structure bookmarked then in a fatal attempt to warp "within" the structure for analyzer scans. Aerios Spiritus and Kinthras, two others who are assisting to spearhead the research project, had a spreadsheet set up for the public to edit, designed to keep track of all solar systems with an Unidentified Structure within it in a certain region. I tasked myself with Lonetrek, with some assistance from a corporation member Dylan Tompkins. We found 17 US in the region, scattered at random until further analysis is made. More were made in Solitude and other regions by helping hands and friendly contributors. The super structures are legion.

To those who assisted, I give you my personal thanks. Join our channel in EVE, Rhea Sleepers, if you would like to contribute any information. I plan on looking into the shattered WH's for further information, when the time permits.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2014-12-11 06:38:05 UTC
UaE's Circadian Seeker Side Study Journal Entry #1

I saw one today. I was all like 'Meh'. I watched it scan something. It also must have been all like 'meh' because it left soon after. I looked for it. I found it. We both once again exchanged silent 'meh', and went our separate ways.

I stumbled into it again at a gate. I decided now that it was following me, or that I was following it. I decided to give it a name. Charlie. Charlie the Circadian Seeker. Charlie was real interested in that gate, but he didn't like the color, so he turned it blue. I think Charlie is an artist at heart. That's good to know. Charlie left shortly after. He must have felt bad that his blue paint job didn't stick.

I followed Charlie to an asteroid belt. He looked at a rock while I ship scanned a Retriever. A single t1 small shield extender and a couple t1 mining laser upgrades. I told Charlie what I had found, and Charlie left in disgust. I waved at the miner in local, and he waved back. His bio showed a 3 month old permit. I decided to let the miner go, and go tell Charlie that it wasn't as bad as it seemed.

I came out of warp right on top of Charlie. He was at a planet, looking at a POCO. I tried bumping him to let him know that we were now bros. He never bumped back. Im starting to think our friendship is one sided.

I followed Charlie around for about an hour to see if he did anything fun during his day. All Charlie ever does is work it seems. Charlie needs to take a day for himself, and get a drink. I took matters into my own hands. I procured some liquor at a nearby station, as well as a holoreel and a Janitor. I found Charlie a few minutes later. I approached him and dropped a can with the goods right next to him. He scanned the can, then warped. Upon checking the can myself, the contents were untouched. Charlie must either be a non-drinker, or a recovering alcoholic. Good notes there.

After a while, I got used to finding Charlie at the same places I was. It seemed like he was everywhere. It seemed that we were destined to become close friends. Sometimes I would find him, and sometimes he would find me. I enjoyed our games. I was always better at finding Charlie than he was at finding me. Sometimes it took him an hour to find me, while I could find him in just a few minutes. He will get better at it eventually.

Then it happened. Charlie and I were minding our own business, just hanging out, when a guy in a Proteus uncloaked 15km from us.. AND SHOT CHARLIE!!!! I raced to Charlie's defense, but he died to quickly. The Proteus warped off, and left me alone to weep over the wreckage of my friend. I will keep his scrap metal in my cargohold always, as a reminder of the time we spent together. I doubt ill ever find another just like Charlie. His bright and bubbly personality lit up my overview everytime he appeared. Now, emptiness is on my screen where his little red cross used to be.

I don't know if I can bring myself to look at another Seeker again.. id hate to get attached.. to put my heart and friendship out there.. just to get hurt one more time.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Kestrix
The Whispering
#11 - 2014-12-11 08:22:34 UTC
Virgil Nightingale wrote:
Seeing as how the ship is scanning, maybe try throwing some blue loot in your hull? Maybe its looking for all the sleeper data libraries that have been removed from its systems.


I tried that but it showed no interest so I ejected the sleeper stuff out into a can but they did not want to scan that.
Magus Lay Aurion
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-12-11 13:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Magus Lay Aurion
Such a sad tale, UaE, but very enlightening! I will make sure our research goes to avenge it's death. Your experience is one I would be happy to share with my friends. Plenty of other seekers in the black, though, you may befriend another artist.
Aerios Spiritus
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-12-11 14:05:05 UTC
Tears have been shed UaE :'(
Magus Lay Aurion
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-12-14 09:25:02 UTC
Entry #3 YC 116-12-14

Dear diary, we've hit a wall. Information and research has come to almost a halt concerning the Circadian Sleepers and their cloaked spires. The other researchers and I have begun listing the locations of these structures by system and region location. No discernible pattern in the scattering locations, but this is only due to the game crashing when we put in an entire region's worth of these systems into a route and hit optimize. Socket wanted none of that, and third party mappers like dotlan make sloppy messes of a map. Yea it makes a route, but I cant read it or optimize it. Fantastic. More to come on patterns, I am looking at Lonetrek mainly for pattern search.

Our attention has otherwise turned to Caroline's Star and the Shattered Wormholes. Let's start with the wormholes. According to reports from Nomad Deathster and Kinthras, Sansha's Nation ships have been sighted within the shattered wormholes. This is big news considering the last time we heard of their activity outside incursions was when they were scrambling through the gates out of null-sec territories. It's common knowledge Sansha leads incursions to reclaim his "former empire," so why would they bother with the shattered wormholes (SWH)? I have a few theories about the matter. Perhaps they saw some sign of the SWH's in their HQ systems and decided they could master them, wreaking havoc once they master the WH's into K-space? Maybe they fell in and stuck together, caught by surprise from the sudden appearances of these new wormholes and causing panic amongst those who missed the gravity well, which would explain their frantic movements. A likely scenario is that they discovered Sisters of Eve already having a station within one of the SWH's, Thera, and are hoping to fill a power vacuum before the capsuleers can after seeing what they did with the now-conquered wormholes.

Something we discovered while checking out the maps is that, as of this date, 95% of the Jove Empire has no Stargate paths anymore. There are two constellations remaining, 0VFS-G and B-HLOG, at the most northern point of the flattened map of New Eden. Kinthras heard 'round the campfire that they are actually new constellations, and I'm inclined to agree. My initial thoughts were that the systems were within the explosion radius of Caroline's Star and it was wiping out everything within it, much like EVE Gate did, but according to my measurements that means the explosion would have reached null-sec systems and the new constellations.

I also noticed that the explosion is cooling down, becoming an appealing shade of yellow and green. The ring has also expanded heavily and looks to be gaining speed, meaning it is coming closer. I also noticed two more explosion rings on the outer ring with symmetrical distance from the epicenter, which confounds me. It is not a phenomena I have seen before; it causes my mind to dance in speculation! Could it be other systems or wormholes that exploded in synchronicity, confirming a pattern to the shattered wormholes? Are they extra shockwaves based on the central one, like a physics phenomenon never observed by humanity? Well, kind of, but not really. Kinthras was kind enough to explain that it is something called a Torus that is being seen from the side. It's basically when a shockwave expands after being formed from two circles, causing it to form celestial-sized geometric formations, and then it gets math-crazy. I'm not good with calculus, but I can wrap my head around trigonometry and 4D planes etc. Anyways, that's what those rings are, just physics taking a galactic crap.

We have talked much about the Jove Empire, mostly telling what we know, getting an even platform of information across the panel. I had no idea they had a war against the Amarr Empire, where the Amarr apparently were crushed and gave way to the Minmatar Rebellions. We have the Jovians to thank for capsules! 20 years later, the Yulai Convention was signed and the Jovians fell apart with Jove Disease, which I am told came from the Sleepers, which were of their own creation. Not sure if that's the case, but that's what we gathered. Could the Jovians be returning, like a massive wave of Reavers hellbent on silencing capsuleers, or do they fear something within the sleepers that would cause galactic chaos? They have access to us, only we are locked from them, which means something must have gone wrong.

I am so excited to find the truth behind all this, but it bring great fear into my heart as well.
Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
#15 - 2014-12-14 10:09:49 UTC
Maybe the explosion eminates from 5 sources, one central and four around it, like in the epicenters of Thera and the shattered wormholes?

Wariamu Fidard
Fidard InterStellar
#16 - 2014-12-17 15:11:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Wariamu Fidard
Amienaka System, Ortner, Heimater

Unidentified Beacon.

Localization:

Amienaka IX (Gas Planet)...160,137 km distant
Six Kin Dev. Warehouse..... 1.29 AU
Unstable Wormhole.............2.22 AU
Arluf Jump Gate..................60.81 AU
Ivar Jump Gate...................69.37 AU

Notes. Targeting becon is very slow with minmater Ladar tech. Cargo scans reveal nothing, Tech 2 relic/data analysers unuseable. Unable to cause damage to beacon.

Cloaked Structure

Indistinct, elongated inverted pyramid core with at least 3 differently sized elongated protrusions. Off center spire at pinnacle. Targetting possible if large collideable structure set on overview. No damage possible, scans reveal nothing, unable to use analyzers.

Circadian Sleepers

3 Drones with "seeking" behaviour uninterrupted by any actions. Cargo scans show empty. Pattern behaviour as follows.

A) scanning about beacon area for 5 mins...jump out
B) 24 mins no site activity
C) Same Drones return
D) Scanning behaviour about site for 5 mins..jump out

Notes. Behaviour repeated even after the destruction of one drone (no salvage) Left site to change to scan ship and 2 drones had returned prematurely..well before 24 minute cycle. Destroyed two more drones. Sleepers did not jump out of site after usual 5 min interval. Salvage 2 scraps from one drone wreck. Site empty for 30 odd minutes. Three new Circadian sleepers jump in. No other observable behaviours.

Find the central "orb" module of the sleeper drones the most curious and interesting. Can't help but feel that while their seeking is indiscriminate what their looking for is not. Almost like there is a key that would light up those central orbs were it present and scanned. Perhaps then those observable weapon mounts might get some use..or indeed the hidden station structure revealed. Pure speculation.
Kira121
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-01-01 15:17:38 UTC
someone ever try to use the new sansha data analyser module on it ?
voetius
Grundrisse
#18 - 2015-01-01 17:56:03 UTC
Kira121 wrote:
someone ever try to use the new sansha data analyser module on it ?


I was wondering that myself. I just found an Echelon lurking in one of my hangers with the purloined sansha codebreaker thingie and ... no I haven't tried it yet Smile
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#19 - 2015-01-01 21:25:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ptraci
It's almost like they're scanning everything in some sort of massive reconnaissance operation, finding out our strengths and weaknesses. If you stay too long near them, they'll scan you too. OMG, they are learning everything about us!

Surely this can't be related to the huge explosion that was first thought of as Caroline's Star... It's impossible to think that this event could be something that causes an invasion of our space, since the way through Jove space is closed...

The plot twist is... er... not that twisted at all.
Aleksi Bocharov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-01-01 21:40:10 UTC
Magus Lay Aurion wrote:

The Sleepers in WH do not need shields because they are not designed for combat, they are designed for maintenance and were meant to be left alone.


Sleepers in WH lack shields because of the Terran Superweapon.
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