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Happy Seventh Birthday, Curatores Veritatis Alliance

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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#21 - 2011-12-02 15:22:36 UTC
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
...an affair of honour.



Is that the title of the upcoming sequel? Cool

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#22 - 2011-12-02 17:39:07 UTC
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
Ethidium Bromide wrote:
oh yes you did and now you try to ***** your way out. not much to be expected from a geallente nowadays i see

Indeed… A man sans integrity—what a shame. I can’t feel insulted by this creature, I have pity on him. Should he, however, decide elsewise, I would still be available for an affair of honour.

Love,
Odelya d’Hanguest
Exalted Cherry Blossom in the Sacred Flower Garden


Ignorants/trolls are better ignored.
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2011-12-02 17:57:15 UTC
Marlakh wrote:

Since then, the CVA has undergone many arduous trials, and continue to be tested even today.


Interesting choice of words... good luck to CVA.
Nick Bete
Highsec Haulers Inc.
#24 - 2011-12-03 06:40:47 UTC
I'm in Pator on business for the next few days, slaver. Come and see me if you like. I'm not hiding.

I stand by what I said, however.

Oh and Bromide, why are you coming to her defense? Angling for a part in her next show? I rather doubt you'd measure up, to be honest. Blink
Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#25 - 2011-12-03 07:08:01 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
I'm in Pator on business for the next few days, slaver. Come and see me if you like. I'm not hiding.

I stand by what I said, however.

Oh and Bromide, why are you coming to her defense? Angling for a part in her next show? I rather doubt you'd measure up, to be honest. Blink


Something that has no soul is not worthy to be enslaved in the first place.

Back to that important topic thank you everyone who wished us well or congratulated us on our work thus far. We plan to be around for many years.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Joqaak Huren
Doomheim
#26 - 2011-12-03 12:10:10 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
I'm in Pator on business for the next few days, slaver. Come and see me if you like. I'm not hiding.

It is unnecessary to work out the details in public. Name a second who will get in private contact with me. May I also politely suggest to get accustomed with the basics rules of duelling? Thank you.

Many apologies for disrupting this thread.

With kindest regards from Utopia,
Joqaak Huren, Private Secretary of HSH Odelya
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#27 - 2011-12-04 07:00:08 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:
...an affair of honour.



Is that the title of the upcoming sequel? Cool



Good one!
Big smile

P.S. Lighten up Kithrus. You know that it takes more muscles to frown than to smile. yes?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Reiisha
#28 - 2011-12-04 10:55:47 UTC
I miss Hardin...

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#29 - 2011-12-04 13:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Kithrus
Reiisha wrote:
I miss Hardin...


He has returned.

Anabella Rella wrote:



Good one!
Big smile

P.S. Lighten up Kithrus. You know that it takes more muscles to frown than to smile. yes?


The Amarrians are equip with the genetic ability to frown in displeasure at all the other races without causing great strain.

*slightly smiles*

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Reiisha
#30 - 2011-12-05 05:27:48 UTC
Kithrus wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
I miss Hardin...


He has returned.


I still miss him. *Grins*

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#31 - 2011-12-05 17:01:16 UTC
7 years, eh?

Feels like 70 some days.

In any event, perhaps after 7 more years, my compatriots will see the need for, and logic behind, liberalization, and end to the legal trade of slaves, slavery being possibly the single worst way to bring anyone to any form of enlightenment, to let loose the shackles of enforced religiousity, and to declare CVA Controlled portions of Providence as what they are in everything but declared words....an independant null-sec State, like all other null-sec States, not part of the Empire (and Empire, it should be reminded, who wouldn't have us even if we begged them to take us every day from now till rapture), and run (like all nullsec holdings) as WE see fit and fair and appropriate.

Then again, probably not gonna happen. One can dream though, and work for them, even if it's an uphill climb. Sysyphus would proud, I'm sure.

With all that said, even a religious and backwards Imperial-minded CVA is a good thing for this verse as a whole. Of that, I am totally and utterly convinced.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#32 - 2011-12-05 17:20:23 UTC
Alistair Cononach wrote:
7 years, eh?

Feels like 70 some days.

In any event, perhaps after 7 more years, my compatriots will see the need for, and logic behind, liberalization, and end to the legal trade of slaves, slavery being possibly the single worst way to bring anyone to any form of enlightenment, to let loose the shackles of enforced religiousity, and to declare CVA Controlled portions of Providence as what they are in everything but declared words....an independant null-sec State, like all other null-sec States, not part of the Empire (and Empire, it should be reminded, who wouldn't have us even if we begged them to take us every day from now till rapture), and run (like all nullsec holdings) as WE see fit and fair and appropriate.

Then again, probably not gonna happen. One can dream though, and work for them, even if it's an uphill climb. Sysyphus would proud, I'm sure.

With all that said, even a religious and backwards Imperial-minded CVA is a good thing for this verse as a whole. Of that, I am totally and utterly convinced.


This sounds odd coming from a member of CVA.

Are we now to assume that CVA no longer stands in support of reclaiming Providence for the Empress, on behalf of the Empire, to further its traditional values?

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#33 - 2011-12-05 17:37:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Alistair Cononach
Silas Vitalia wrote:
This sounds odd coming from a member of CVA.

Are we now to assume that CVA no longer stands in support of reclaiming Providence for the Empress, on behalf of the Empire, to further its traditional values?



I could give a Slaver Hounds' droppings what you choose to assume.

I speak for me and me alone. The days where I spoke for CVA are long since past.

I have been honest in my desire and support for more liberal (I would say honest) policies for some time.

There is no rule within CVA that I must own Slaves, or support their owning by others.

There is no rule within CVA that I cannot speak my mind, or describe the reality behind many of CVA's policies and actions.

My actions speak for me, and I've killed more pilots than I care to recall int he name and direction of CVA and my brothers therein.

I wish to see my brethren shake loose religiosity and claimed ties to an Empire, you clearly need reminded, that won't take us or our space or anything else into the Empire no matter what we do.

Thats not saying I want lawlessness or any other perceived negative of such an idea, I strongly believe the policies of CVA (which differ meaningfully from those of the Amarr Empire) are some of the ebst, most fair, and most purely good-intentioned in all the cluster. Our leaders, like Aralis and Equi, are as close to living Saints as I could imagine, with all they've had to suffer under to provide the space and laws we have over the years.

With that said, CVA does not need the Empire, and the Empire has never expressed any need or desire of interest in us and our deeds.

The day I check the comms networks, and see the Empress, or some other major Imperial figure, loudly and publicly declare their support for CVA and what CVA does, then perhaps I migth think differently.

But we both know such a thing will never happen.

Because we both know the Empire doesn't care about CVA.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#34 - 2011-12-05 18:07:12 UTC
Alistair Cononach wrote:
...the Empire has never expressed any need or desire of interest in us and our deeds.

The day I check the comms networks, and see the Empress, or some other major Imperial figure, loudly and publicly declare their support for CVA and what CVA does, then perhaps I migth think differently.


A loyal servant would say that as Amarrians It does not matter if the Empire, or the Empress, or the King cares, acknowledges, or rewards what we do, but wether it is the right and just thing to do.

And that it is how we choose to act of our own accord that matters, not official recognition or support.


Although in these troubled times Brother your point of view does become increasingly valid.







Sabik now, Sabik forever

Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#35 - 2011-12-05 18:30:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Alistair Cononach
Silas Vitalia wrote:
A loyal servant would say that as Amarrians It does not matter if the Empire, or the Empress, or the King cares, acknowledges, or rewards what we do, but wether it is the right and just thing to do.


Those who say such things would be wrong. Loyalty and honour are admirable traits, but loyalty in the face of silence is nothing to admire, it's as foolish as mankind believing he, and only he, knows the face and word of God. It's arrogance and hubris beyond logical measure.

Assume not that even we capsuleers know the will of the Empress when she speaks it not, much less that the corrupt theocracy of mankind knows anymore than you or I the will of God.

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And that it is how we choose to act of our own accord that matters, not official recognition or support.


Indeed. And CVA has acted as well as any group in the cluster, to foster peace, civilization and freedom and law and safety for the space we've controlled.

Not by anything the Empire has done to help, and not by my own minor role in things, but by the dedicated and thankless work of CVA's diplomatic team and leadership. The work they do, I maintain, shall never ever be appreciated by most capsuleers, but it really really should be. Their self-sacrifice provides everything for the rest of us.

It's with men like Equi that my loyalty lies. I would lay down my many many lives (lol) for him, and I have and certainly will again, kill at his command. But more, I will work to help build the civilization in null-sec he believes in.

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Although in these troubled times Brother your point of view does become increasingly valid.


Amarrian Theology is in and of itself not a bad thing, quite the contrary. But it sorely needs a Reformation, the kind that faiths have endured, and grown from, throughout human history. To break free of the shackles of outdated ideals and immorallity, to shake loose the corruption of the influence of power hungry men,, and the reformation of a new, stronger, better, more moral Church. One dedicated not to it;s own power and influence, but to goodness and law and peace, for all men.

Faith, and the moral codes that often come with it, are a core value of mankind, a tool for goodness and lawfulness and protection fo the weak, and freedom for all. It is the way men of low character twist the Faith to serve ther own greedy ends that is the greatest crime against God. Slavery, of the Matari or any other sentient hominid race, is the most clear case of this one can find. Slavery in the name of God is a vile and greedy sin, and must end.

Anyone who tells you slavery is the best way to bring the unenlightened to God, check you wallet......they may just have their hand in it pockting your isk. And they might just find YOU to not be faithful enough next, the next man up for slavery an tyrany for the almighty isk.

The best path to God for all men is to show them, in real terms and examples, how goodness is better than evil, morality and ethics better than immorality, peace and civilization better than anarchy and murder, that one can be free, and still to be good and moral, and how the path to all these things is action to protect not only yourself, but all other peaceloving people.




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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2011-12-05 18:44:57 UTC
It's a good job for you that Gaius Kador isn't around, Alistair.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#37 - 2011-12-05 19:00:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Alistair Cononach
Rodj Blake wrote:
It's a good job for you that Gaius Kador isn't around, Alistair.


Traditionalism is a hard obstacle to overcome my old friend.

I assure you, my view on Faith is not so far as it may seem from your own. At the core, I think we want the same things, for many of the same reasons.

Change is always hard, hardest for those most wedded to the ways of the past.

But if human history teaches us anything, it's that the flood of change cannot be stopped with teh sandbags of traditionalism. That even morallity must change as time rolls ever onwards, to become MORE moral, MORE fairminded, MORE rightious to all mankind, MORE equitable, and to provide MORE freedom and liberty to all.

Was it not God who gave man freewill Admiral Blake? Why woudl God give something so valuble as that, and then decree that a select few of his creations turn around and take that freewill, and all other basic human rights, away from others? The CVA does not do that, we protect the rights of those who do not take rights away from others. It is a core ethic of NRDS Law.

The Reformation of the Faith will come. I may not live to see it through, but one day the Faith shall see the real light of enlightenment, and it will.....be....GLORIOUS.

Till that day I will be what I have always been. A loyal, if mouthy and unpopular, servant of the CVA, by my choice, and a bringer of peace and civilization to the wilds of null-sec, to the very best of my limited abillity.

P.S. Don't worry, Garreck beats up on me daily for my beliefs, for straying from the Faith, as some see it. But I think even he knows the true goodness in my soul. Hopefully, so would my beloved mentor Lord Kador. May God watch over him.
Kithrus
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#38 - 2011-12-05 22:19:54 UTC
Alistair Cononach wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
It's a good job for you that Gaius Kador isn't around, Alistair.



P.S. Don't worry, Garreck beats up on me daily for my beliefs, for straying from the Faith, as some see it. But I think even he knows the true goodness in my soul. Hopefully, so would my beloved mentor Lord Kador. May God watch over him.


I shall have to join Sir Garreck for that sometime. A bonding experience I'm sure.

Darkness is more then absence of light, it is ignorance and corruption. I will be the Bulwark from such things that you may live in the light. Pray so my arms do not grow weary and my footing remain sure.

If you are brave, join me in the dark.

Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
#39 - 2011-12-07 09:04:42 UTC
Nick Bete wrote:
I'm in Pator on business for the next few days, slaver. Come and see me if you like. I'm not hiding.

I stand by what I said, however.

Oh and Bromide, why are you coming to her defense? Angling for a part in her next show? I rather doubt you'd measure up, to be honest. Blink


i am afraid even you will have more back up than you need if i enter pator.
but then i guess you are the kind of guy who enjoys having a lot of real men to "back" him up!


Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#40 - 2011-12-07 12:41:29 UTC
Having both lived under their protection and fought against them as adverseries I am well acquainted with CVA.

Amarr Victor ! Pirate

Now go and kick TEST/PL out of Providence Twisted
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