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CCP Greyscale no longer with CCP

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2014-12-09 00:53:25 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
And we care why?

Honestly I will never understand why people follow ccp devs around like rockstars or sports team members. People leave and join companies all the time. If the company is run well its not a huge loss, as ideas and such are kept within a team. Why we track every movement I have no idea.

well why do people follow rockstars or sports team members?

because theya re involved with something they care about. the personalities and goals of the devs are what shape and direct the form and future of the game, when one leaves, their influence goes too, and is replaced by whoever takes up the reins.

its like yanks and their eggball teams, they get fanatical over who is and isnt on what team and how they perform, because that player can influence whether the team will flounder or prosper in the tournament
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#42 - 2014-12-09 00:58:32 UTC
I wonder when Riot will announce their new hire...

Regardless, sorry to see him go, he was always a catalyst for interesting developments.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Robus Muvila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-12-09 00:59:08 UTC
I went to school with Greyscale, I was finally going to get to go to Fanfest this year and was going to try and wedgie him or something.

He was in the year above me and me was a butthole.

Now I'll never get that chance Sad

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Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2014-12-09 01:00:19 UTC
What ever my opinion of the changes you have made to my beloved mistress Eve Online. I know you did them believing you would make the game better for everybody. I also know that while to many of us you are solely a game Developer, you have like all of us, many facets to your life. I wish you all the best at your new employer, living in your new city, exciting times for you.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#45 - 2014-12-09 01:01:01 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
(apologies for the source)

Why?
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2014-12-09 01:33:23 UTC
Good luck out there, Greyscale.

Go do stuff!

o7
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-12-09 01:46:26 UTC

o7 Greyscale

Take care and be well.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#48 - 2014-12-09 01:54:07 UTC
o7 CCP Greyscale.

Oh, and I still want those divisions in the orca's fleet hangar back Pirate.

Remove standings and insurance.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#49 - 2014-12-09 02:13:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
dark heartt wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I can't say that I'm going to miss the person who completely screwed up Crimewatch. Greyscale was in large part responsible for many decisions that, how should I say this, "simplified" the game."


You mean changes that a lot of people like?

The only ones who like them are those who think they make a difference, and those who take advantage of them for entertainment. Kill rights and bounty-hunting could have been so much more, but weren't. And you know what? That seems to define a lot of EVE changes recently. The people who seem to do the best jobs at CCP today are those who are working on things like ship rebalancing, usability, and artistic/visual improvements. Everything else is full of oversimplification and catering to the lowest common denominator.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#50 - 2014-12-09 02:18:50 UTC
welp with his departure there goes any hope to rebalance and fix the rorqual since he said it himself that it will take a full on "team" to fix it.. just due to the changes he already put in place completely forgetting about the Capital Industrial Ship.

I guess fozzie will give her some new rigs or an extra slot somewhere..

Rorqual Rest in Peace...
she was gutted in crius
she was put to sleep in phoebe
now her change maker is gone with no one left to even fix it he even had to pull "data" to find out she was used for mining support.
so with him gone is the idea of "you will want this thing in the field" gone with him??

so many questions left and no one will answer it..

a good day and a sad day at the same time.

guess she'll get a timer for an answer.
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#51 - 2014-12-09 02:21:48 UTC
Milla Goodpussy wrote:
welp with his departure there goes any hope to rebalance and fix the rorqual since he said it himself that it will take a full on "team" to fix it.. just due to the changes he already put in place completely forgetting about the Capital Industrial Ship.

I guess fozzie will give her some new rigs or an extra slot somewhere..

Rorqual Rest in Peace...
she was gutted in crius
she was put to sleep in phoebe
now her change maker is gone with no one left to even fix it he even had to pull "data" to find out she was used for mining support.
so with him gone is the idea of "you will want this thing in the field" gone with him??

so many questions left and no one will answer it..

a good day and a sad day at the same time.

guess she'll get a timer for an answer.



Don't fall apart just yet. Remember, in a recent devblog they said that letting caps into high-sec wasn't off the table for discussion. There's still hope for the Rorqual yet.

Profit favors the prepared
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2014-12-09 02:48:55 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
And we care why?

Honestly I will never understand why people follow ccp devs around like rockstars or sports team members. People leave and join companies all the time. If the company is run well its not a huge loss, as ideas and such are kept within a team. Why we track every movement I have no idea.



i think you don`t use twitter right? well i hate that s*... to.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#53 - 2014-12-09 03:19:34 UTC
Riot Games has gained an awesome dev.

Wait, that's where all CCP employees go when they leave right?

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#54 - 2014-12-09 03:36:27 UTC
Xtreem wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Xtreem wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
And we care why?

Honestly I will never understand why people follow ccp devs around like rockstars or sports team members. People leave and join companies all the time. If the company is run well its not a huge loss, as ideas and such are kept within a team. Why we track every movement I have no idea.


He made some good changes, while I agree they are not rockstars, Devs with a good vision is a good thing.

people do seem to assign credit for specific changes to whatever dev is being the public face of the team responsible

i have no idea which people were responsible for certificates, or whose project it was, but i remember greyscale is given credit and he happened to write the devblog

i like certificates, i used the system a lot when starting out. helped me with early skill planning and with identifying important skills


That's how project heads work.

Project heads are in most cases assigned to projects, they don't choose them. They may make choices on implementation but for the most part they are just there to ensure the execution of an idea.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#55 - 2014-12-09 03:37:33 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I can't say that I'm going to miss the person who completely screwed up Crimewatch. Greyscale was in large part responsible for many decisions that, how should I say this, "simplified" the game."

What is the applicable EvE saying? Oh yeah, adapt or die. Funny how people like to be selective with that opinion.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#56 - 2014-12-09 03:48:27 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I can't say that I'm going to miss the person who completely screwed up Crimewatch. Greyscale was in large part responsible for many decisions that, how should I say this, "simplified" the game."

What is the applicable EvE saying? Oh yeah, adapt or die. Funny how people like to be selective with that opinion.

Adapt or die to...Simplification? I'm not sure how that makes sense.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#57 - 2014-12-09 03:50:45 UTC
Out with the old and in with the new.

Lets keep this pace going on cutting the withered fruit, as the results have seemed to be more than positive.

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Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-12-09 04:15:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodoric Darkwind
He was very polarizing and won't be missed.

On one hand some good came from his efforts like the new crimewatch system and the Phoebe jump changes (I live in null, own both a carrier and dread and still think the changes were a good idea in general).

But, remember he also is the person responsible for the dominion sov system, tied with Incarna as probably the worst design decision in the history of EVE.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#59 - 2014-12-09 04:33:22 UTC
Was he upset that teams are being cancelled?

Jokes aside, I was impressed with the way Greyscale fearlessly implemented changes to industry while patiently listening to player input and explaining CCP opinion and direction in the forums. It's not easy to keep a level head when players are rioting. He certainly withstood the heat in the kitchen with the jump changes.

Best of luck with the next stage of your career!
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#60 - 2014-12-09 04:40:13 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
And we care why?

Honestly I will never understand why people follow ccp devs around like rockstars or sports team members. People leave and join companies all the time. If the company is run well its not a huge loss, as ideas and such are kept within a team. Why we track every movement I have no idea.


Some of us have met the devs, played with them, been friends with them. Eve has a somewhat small community, that is for the most part full of amazing people. It is only natural that we care about our own. Sure some of it may be a bit over the top, but I'll take that over not caring any day.

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