EVE General Discussion

Is it more than one?

Negative sec status is just a consequence of using a certain game mechanic to attack outlaws under the Code. It has nothing to do with being a "criminal". Don't be so short sighted and play EVE like good or bad is a given by the themepark setup in the background of the game. There is simply more to this game and player build goals are the only ones worth fighting for. If you can't break out of that themeparky perception of the game it will be your loss and you will miss the biggest fun you could ever have in this kind of game.

You can chose between:

A) Unbelievable killmails, big fleets with friends, buckets of tears from your enemies, action from login to logoff whenever you have time and the good feeling that you are part of the salvation of Highsec.

or

B) Become an anti-ganker like you plan to do and experience stuff like: Camping stations without success. Boredom. Camping gates without success. More boredom. Guarding ungrateful AFK miners without success. Extreme boredom. Toxic conversations in the anti-ganker channel about the failed operations and how CCP should make it easier for you. Facemelting boredom.

or

C) Do some PvE and become content for A

or

D) Leave Highsec and do something else where everyone shoots everyone anyway without causing a major panic on the forums.

The choice is yours.

To shoot a pirate whenever you feel comfortable and NPC Faction Police support if you don't manage to kill him after a few seconds is not good enough for you? And then you call that "welfare" in favor of the ganker?

I am sorry, but if the playing field is so stacked in your favor like it is in Highsec and your are still complaining then you may simply be a really really bad player. There is no other explanation in my opinion, nothing personal.

It could be interesting to vote for police members paid by the community to protect their diary life in space.

paid by the community to protect their diary life in space.

diary life in space.

fedos can be milked?

That kind of depends. If you exclude Titans and "priceless" ships (the ones that can't really be acquired), it actually wouldn't take too long to acquire everything. I am pretty sure I have at least one of each "regular" thing in the game now, excluding supercaps, and some hulls that I never use and therefore don't need (such as dreads). Same goes for modules, excluding officer gear specifically (deadspace is equivalent, and I have that all over my ships). Anything I lack, I could buy, and I definitely don't value myself at the "tens of trillions" level. And keep in mind, this is with constant expenditures and very little pve activity. The thing is, in the absence of destruction, not everyone would make it their goal to collect one of each thing. Some people would just "play the game," and of those, many would get bored. I've played other MMO-type games with "loss ceilings," and that's exactly what happened. At some point you simply lose your desire and motivation to keep going, because you have everything you need.


Correct, but the one thing you forgot to mention is that this demographic would constantly have to be growing. The only way you can sustain an innovation-capped economy without destruction is to turn it into a pyramid scheme.

So sure, we can have a game like that; an economy-focused game that's constantly growing, and has no pvp or violence to get in the way of peoples' daily grind. But that game sounds very different from EVE. Should it have to be EVE? Why can't it be a different game?

Wat?
I don't understand you, but I think I should probably murder someone just to get the everliving derp out of my brain after reading your post.

You can also accept a new reality to come.
Embrace the new age.

But let 's stop words for actions now.
Act II is near.

Rough math: Assuming someone earns 100m isk/hr and farms 10 hours a week, they will have 52 billion isk in a year. Enough to buy every(non special edition) subcap in the game with good fittings and some officer mods thrown in.

The limiting factor is actually going to be skill points. Training up all these ships and fittings will take much longer than a year. I suspect that instead the player(if for some reason he found this fun) will instead have a full line of very well fit ships with a bunch of isk in the bank just waiting for the next ship to be skilled up.

Meh...tend to think they would just buy characters with sp in different area to fly each ship. The high end officer modules are brutally expensive (estamel's anyone?) - and an officer fit titan can run into the hundreds of billions.

For me this thread ended right here.

The Code is the law.

I am the law.

Peraphs you are not watching with the best eyes, confirmed negative status capsuleer.
Graal is not so easy to find.

The messenger is the messenger.
The guardians are the guardians.

Assassins have no honor nor rules.
We won't offer them the easiest way to come to light.

But let you come to your father. Your father in law.
Let you give him the kiss.
The kiss of death would be the most obvious for us.
To be condamned.