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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-12-07 01:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: HeXxploiT
I remember one time having poor faction standing with Gallente and the navy police would come after me and shoot at me while in their territory but I was always afraid to fire back . So what does happen if a pilot shoots back at navy police under poor standing circumstances?
Do the navy police ships have bounty or loot? Will they just send more ships until you are dead?
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#2 - 2014-12-07 01:35:44 UTC
Best way to figure that one out might be to take a cheap ship and try it out.

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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-12-07 01:38:47 UTC
Evei Shard wrote:
Best way to figure that one out might be to take a cheap ship and try it out.



Unfortunately all my standings are good.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#4 - 2014-12-07 02:02:38 UTC
They put you in a choke hold and scream at you to stop resisting.
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2014-12-07 02:25:41 UTC
Haven't done it myself but I remember Ralph saying in a different thread that they do drop tags, but you should only do it if you have no regard for your standings. Sit at a regional gate on a faction border and shoot them, when your tank starts failing jump through to safe space. Pretty sure he said Marauder with Bastion mode is kind of a requirement for proper farming. I'm sure he'll be along at some point to confirm.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#6 - 2014-12-07 02:47:51 UTC
People used to camp them and farm them on certain gates like crazy. Making so many wrecks on a gate that you would get lag jumping into system helping them kill any other faction players thatd jump into system like m0o used to do in mara in the good old days. Its not an exploit because theyre actively shooting things.

So they are quite killable, most ppl used BSs from what I saw passing through but Im no expert.

Have you heard anything I've said?

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#7 - 2014-12-07 03:21:52 UTC
Why don't you buy a Marauder pilot and find out?

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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-12-07 03:22:58 UTC
Very interesting. This makes me want to get my standing back down with Gallente so I can go try this out.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#9 - 2014-12-07 04:03:50 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Primary This Rifter wrote:
They put you in a choke hold and scream at you to stop resisting.

Too soon? >_>


You can definitely kill the Faction Police NPCs... but they respawn in the same amount of time it took them to spawn in the first place.
And they do hurt. A lot. Not just in terms of DPS... but Ewar effects too.

Bottom line... don't engage them unless you have a very clear plan with a very tanky ship and are right next to a station.

HeXxploiT wrote:
Very interesting. This makes me want to get my standing back down with Gallente so I can go try this out.

Join Faction Warfare. Same effect really. Except you are engaging the Faction Navy instead of the Police (Navy deal less damage and Ewar effects).

How did you Veterans start?
HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-12-07 04:15:14 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
They put you in a choke hold and scream at you to stop resisting.

Too soon? >_>


You can definitely kill the Faction Police NPCs... but they respawn in the same amount of time it took them to spawn in the first place.
And they do hurt. A lot. Not just in terms of DPS... but Ewar effects too.

Bottom line... don't engage them unless you have a very clear plan with a very tanky ship and are right next to a station.

HeXxploiT wrote:
Very interesting. This makes me want to get my standing back down with Gallente so I can go try this out.

Join Faction Warfare. Same effect really. Except you are engaging the Faction Navy instead of the Police (Navy deal less damage and Ewar effects).


You know I've been thinking about faction warfare for awhile. It certainly would be challenging learning something very different than nulsec warfare.
Blobskillz McBlub
Drone Riders
#11 - 2014-12-07 05:16:56 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
They put you in a choke hold and scream at you to stop resisting.


only when you are minmatar and fly into gallente space
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#12 - 2014-12-07 05:46:42 UTC
Take a look into Singularity (affectionately known as SISI), the EVE test server. You can find out how to connect to it at the SISI wiki page, https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity

The test server is an incredible resource for being able to try things out that you would normally never be able to on the main server (Tranquility, or TQ), as well as things that you just don't want to risk your main character for.

Nearly every item is seeded in specific NPC stations for 100 ISK, including all ships except for supercapitals (Titans and Super Carriers) and a few very special ships (such as the Guardian-Vexor). This means you can easily commit some pretty fun insurance fraud, should you find yourself short on ISK, by purchasing a Battleship for 100 ISK, insuring it, and then self-destructing it for a quick ~200m additional ISK in your pocket, which will probably be more than you'll ever actually need on the test server.

Never be afraid to hop on there and try something you would find risky on the main server, just make sure you read the rules regarding the test server (especially those governing PvP), all of which are available on the above-linked EVE wiki page.

For the Newbies: The 8 Golden Rules - The Magic 14 Skills - Finding the Right Corp - EVE University Wiki
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#13 - 2014-12-07 05:53:48 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
You know I've been thinking about faction warfare for awhile. It certainly would be challenging learning something very different than nulsec warfare.

There are some similarities... just in different flavors.

- drunken FCs and "colorful" personalities... there are just more of them in a smaller environment

- blobbing... but with frigates

- structure timers and grinding... but with complexes and iHUBs



Plus... you get all the other cool extras of low-sec life including, but not limited to...

- inability to secure a system. Why? No bubbles. No way to lock out pirates and neutrals. You want people out... you have to kill them. Repeatedly.

- no more afk-cloaking! Because there is no point. Because at any given time half the system is out to kill you anyways (even if it appears friendly). Meaning you have to be ready for PvP at all times.

- more people. More traffic. And all of them want to carve their name into your pod.

- easier logistics to high-sec

- you can actually tell your leaders to "get stuffed" and nothing too bad will happen to you. Because they can't lock you out of the station and/or bubble you in. In many ways... you are potentially as free an agent as the "others" you kill.

- NO BUBBLES!!! GIT DEM IMPLATS AN FLAA LIK A BAWSS!!

How did you Veterans start?
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-12-07 11:30:33 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
I remember one time having poor faction standing with Gallente and the navy police would come after me and shoot at me while in their territory but I was always afraid to fire back . So what does happen if a pilot shoots back at navy police under poor standing circumstances?
Do the navy police ships have bounty or loot? Will they just send more ships until you are dead?

If instead of running, you turn back to fight, they keep coming til you die, and they have little to no chance of indictment.

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Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#15 - 2014-12-07 11:50:20 UTC
Blobskillz McBlub wrote:
Primary This Rifter wrote:
They put you in a choke hold and scream at you to stop resisting.


only when you are minmatar and fly into gallente space


... you are also required to have a long list of criminal violations with a history of breaking the law.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2014-12-07 11:59:48 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Haven't done it myself but I remember Ralph saying in a different thread that they do drop tags, but you should only do it if you have no regard for your standings. Sit at a regional gate on a faction border and shoot them, when your tank starts failing jump through to safe space. Pretty sure he said Marauder with Bastion mode is kind of a requirement for proper farming. I'm sure he'll be along at some point to confirm.

Big smileyeah, exactly this.
its not worth it though, even ill admit its crap isk for your time.
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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-12-07 16:34:05 UTC
Why do I get the feeling that any minute people are going to start blocking roads and throwing Molotov cocktails...
Serene Repose
#18 - 2014-12-07 22:05:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Actually, not much. They continue to shoot and hit you with cap drain, webs, whatever meany stuff we all use. Only theirs is much worse. You last as long as the strength of your ship. If you stay long enough you're blown up. Your standing with that faction goes down and you zoom away in your pod with that feeling ... "Somehow I have to put a good spin on losing this ship...so I can seem cool."

There have been corps in-the-red from null who have en masse "gone shopping" in high sec. They've taken out the jumpgate guards (including the billboards which are armed as well). They can tank those things and hit them with dps with freighters filing through the gates. So, I imagine for fleets of that strength, the cops aren't much of a problem.

Why? Haven't you tried this...YET? (<---- for those who've done "EVERYTHING" in EVE already.)

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#19 - 2014-12-08 05:23:06 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
I remember one time having poor faction standing with Gallente and the navy police would come after me and shoot at me while in their territory but I was always afraid to fire back . So what does happen if a pilot shoots back at navy police under poor standing circumstances?
Do the navy police ships have bounty or loot? Will they just send more ships until you are dead?



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