EVE General Discussion

I've been playing EVE for a year now on and off, training my skills etc, and I just can't deal with a few things that seem like bull.

Few experiences I've had so far:

1. Flying a Navy Comet built for speedtanking and low sig radius with 5k ehp. Caldari tech 1 destroyer flies in next to me, targets me, zapps me couple times, dead. During that time, even though he's 2-3km from me and I'm locked onto him, I can't use En Vamp(6.5k range) or Purp Inhi(10k range) or Warp Scram(9k range), none of them activate and there's no message to say 'you can't do this because of...', and my small hybrids miss him every shot, but his shots hit me every single time even though I'm orbiting around him at 2.5km and at 1km/s. How and why?

2. Flying Atron, warp to jumpgate, see Tornado 154k away from me. He locks onto me in 2 sec(he started firing at me before my warp turned off fully). 1 shot 80% health off(I had 4k ehp). For some reason I can't even right click-approach on him. I pop microwarp and start zooming to him trying to dodge, but next shot hits and kills me. How(mostly curious about his locking ability)?

3. Flying Brutix armor tank, 43k ehp. See Talos 165k away from me. He locks on in couple seconds, hits me and destroys me in 5 sec(2 hits). How?

4. Flying Catalyst, see Garmur warp in. He's flying 35km away from me and still warp disrupting me(possible I suppose) and firing missiles at me. 3 hits - dead. I warp(in a capsule) to 200km away where I had saved location, see him flying after me at 12km/s. I activate warp in a capsule and he travels 50k before I warp. How?

5. Farming sleepers in Myrmidon, Hound flies in. Starts orbiting me at 30 km distance, passing 90 degrees in 2 seconds(2r*Pi/4/2=60*3.14/4/2=23.55km/s). Whole time firing torps at me that take 25% of my armor per hit(I had 10k armor and 73%(64% EM resist) all resist). HOW?

6. Flying a Megathron with 55k ehp, 73%(63% EM resist) armor resist all and 2000 armor repair per 10 sec. Gila flies in, puts 2 drones on me and destroys me in 10 seconds. How?

I have most skills for my ships on lvl 3-5, and it seems like everyone I encounter overkills me by an insane amount. I'm lucky if I get a scratch on an enemy ship before I'm destroyed. Also, my weapons seem to miss 9/10 of the shots on enemy players even though I'm within optimal range, I'm not track disrupted and I'm flying a frigate with blasters which have an extremely fast tracking speed. I miss NPCs very rarely(maybe 1/10 times).

Anyone has any clue as to what I'm doing wrong and how what happened to me is possible, because I'm seriously starting to suspect this game is abundant in cheaters.

Haven't heard that one in a couple of days. It can't possibly be my tactics or preparation, so it's gotta' be cheating. While possible, not likely.

You may want to spend some time in the ships and modules section reading and asking questions. Also, it would not hurt to convo someone after they blow you up and simply ask what you did wrong. More often than not players will take the time to explain it to you and even give pointers regarding how to improve.

Less emphasis on skills and more on tactics will also help you go farther. Skills train-up no matter what, tactics require practice.

None of those scenarios sound believable. Do you have anything to substantiate them other than your word?

This thread is adorable.

1. Flying a Navy Comet built for speedtanking and low sig radius with 5k ehp. Caldari tech 1 destroyer flies in next to me, targets me, zapps me couple times, dead. During that time, even though he's 2-3km from me and I'm locked onto him, I can't use En Vamp(6.5k range) or Purp Inhi(10k range) or Warp Scram(9k range), none of them activate and there's no message to say 'you can't do this because of...', and my small hybrids miss him every shot, but his shots hit me every single time even though I'm orbiting around him at 2.5km and at 1km/s. How and why?

Your modules might have not worked because of lag, probably. Unfortunate, but it happens.

Your shots missed because you were orbiting him at 2.5 km at 1 km/s. Your guns were loaded with Void ammo, which, while it has high damage, also has a high penalty to your tracking. If you want to still track well against sub-cruiser targets while moving fast (or while your target is moving fast), I recommend Antimatter ammo, or one of its faction varieties. Training Gallente Frigate to a higher level would also help, as the Comet has a big bonus to tracking associated with that skill.

He, on the other hand, hit you because destroyers have huge tracking bonuses, and because he probably had a bit more skill points in skills granting better tracking. Additionally, the Cormorant gets range bonuses, so the anemic range of blasters becomes pretty reasonable when they are equipped to a Cormorant.

Overall: destroyers are designed to shred frigates, and that's exactly what he did to you.



2. Flying Atron, warp to jumpgate, see Tornado 154k away from me. He locks onto me in 2 sec(he started firing at me before my warp turned off fully). 1 shot 80% health off(I had 4k ehp). For some reason I can't even right click-approach on him. I pop microwarp and start zooming to him trying to dodge, but next shot hits and kills me. How(mostly curious about his locking ability)?

Look up the sensor booster module. Those boost your scan resolution, which determines your lock speed. The Tornado probably had several of those equipped.

Tornados often act as very long range sniping ships with high damage per shot, but very slow firing rate. Past a certain range, your ship treats targets as things to warp to, so you cannot "approach"; just "align". That is probably what happened there.

Tornados use battleship guns, which have trouble tracking frigates. However, a frigate that is standing still (as you were right after landing), or a frigate that is burning straight towards the Tornado with its MWD on (which makes its signature radius -- how "big" or easy to hit you are -- go up 5x), is very, very easy to hit even with battleship guns.

Next time, I recommend approaching a Tornado (or similar ships like the Oracle and Naga) not directly, but at an angle, to give them more difficulty tracking you.


3. Flying Brutix armor tank, 43k ehp. See Talos 165k away from me. He locks on in couple seconds, hits me and destroys me in 5 sec(2 hits). How?


I do not see any losses of your Brutix to a Talos on killboards. Are you sure that's what happened?



4. Flying Catalyst, see Garmur warp in. He's flying 35km away from me and still warp disrupting me(possible I suppose) and firing missiles at me. 3 hits - dead. I warp(in a capsule) to 200km away where I had saved location, see him flying after me at 12km/s. I activate warp in a capsule and he travels 50k before I warp. How?


Garmur is a very, very powerful pirate faction frigate that gets high damage long range missiles, long range warp disruption, and high speed. It's very potent. I recommend running when you see one unless you can get it at short range to apply some good damage to it.


5. Farming sleepers in Myrmidon, Hound flies in. Starts orbiting me at 30 km distance, passing 90 degrees in 2 seconds(2r*Pi/4/2=60*3.14/4/2=23.55km/s). Whole time firing torps at me that take 25% of my armor per hit(I had 10k armor and 73%(64% EM resist) all resist). HOW?


I do not believe that speed is possible, but the torps are perfectly believable. Look at this barebones fit. Almost 4500 damage a hit, 553 DPS overall. Also, Hounds fire explosive torpedos, which are natively good against armor and poor against shields.

As a note: very few active (repairing) tanks can stand up to the damage a pvp-oriented ship does. Usually to not die in PvP you have to either get away, or kill the other guy before he kills you. For that reason, buffer tanks (armor plates and resistances) are way more common than active tanks (armor repairers and resistances).


6. Flying a Megathron with 55k ehp, 73%(63% EM resist) armor resist all and 2000 armor repair per 10 sec. Gila flies in, puts 2 drones on me and destroys me in 10 seconds. How?

Gilas (and Worms and Rattlesnakes) have bonuses that give them fewer drones that are powered by the fist of Thor (or something). They smash things. Those two drones were hitting you with the power of about 8-9 drones.

Also, 55k ehp is very, very low for a battleship.

Continued in next post because I'm running out of characters.

Im thinking lag and high ping times are responsible for a number of the OP's problems.

The other part is it seems that OP is fond of active armor reppers and resists vs buffer. Armor reps land at end of cycle. Possible damage landed before reps could have applied.

Only the first one sounds like a lag issue. The rest sound like he forgot to turn on his hardners. or something else was going on that he did not note. A few of his losses have more then one person on them like the mega kill he had taken damage form a sleeper, so its possible you were over powered by both. And based on your setup could of been low on cap... Go get some training dude, seriously

Yea... training... you need some. You got killed twice by snipers. my guess is you also forgot to turn your hardners on when you jumped through the gate. If they are not on, they only give you 1% increase

55k on a battleship is downright anemic. A well fit armor tanked battleship can easily get over 100k EHP. If you don't have at least 75 - 80k EHP, you are either doing something very wrong, or you lack the skills necessary to pilot one effectively.

Well, this was fun, just had a duel with an Incursus that had 1 drone out and was somehow fixing 50% of his armor per 5 sec.

About the Navy Comet missing, might be due to the fact that it happened 2 hours or so ago, dunno.

Also, I wrote everything I remember. There were other situations where I escaped etc, but I put these out as they seem far out of standard to me. I had fight in my 55k Megathron people are laughing about where I got attacked by a tech 2 cruiser that couldn't lower my health even with 1 of my 2 repairers working. The reason my Meg had 55k ehp is because It had a very fast repair rate, which is what I use for farming Sleepers. The Tengu also had a problem and it took it over a minute to take my Hyperion down which was using only 1 repairer and had similar ehp, but only ~59% all resist.

So I figured, if a T3 Tengu with full missiles takes 1+ minutes to take down my Hyperion with ~60k ehp, 1200hps and 59% res, how can a T2 Gila with 2 drones take down a Meg with 55k ehp, 2000hps and 73% res in 10 seconds?

Also, yes, my hardeners were working. They're on after every jump and don't go off again until I jump, as my cap can sustain them + 2 armor reps + all weapons at all times + microwarp every 20-30 sec.