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You are asking a scammer for advice ...

Its been awhile. IIRC I was sort of dodgy on the subject, like "I will present my API but I am worried about people stealing my trading secrets. How can we mitigate the risk of that?". Then just kept up that train of conversation till the loan was filled.

Call it what it really was, a scam plain and simple.

I have decided not to accept the suggested collateralized loan because I cannot see the benefit to it for my trading. Any collateral I would have would be drawing away from my capital and, in effect, be doing exactly the opposite of my original intention, as I tend to not keep an item for longer than a week and a half. This being said, I am still open to anyone willing to put in the effort to check me out.

Just to clear up any misinformation that anyone would have: I never said that I had gained all of my money through trading. When I began this account, I started in the positive 1 PLEX and 600m as a result of the buddy system. Then when PLEX prices were hitting that natural rebound point, I bought 2 PLEXs for real life currency and sold them ingame. Furthermore, because of my buddy link I have received 2 PLEXs from that because of people who did not claim the isk I promised them (Though, I have the amounts that I owe them saved in case they decide to claim within 30 days). From the people who did claim the isk, I profited around 250m. This comes up to roughly 5.75billion isk. Furthermore, in the second week of the game, I lost an industrial ship carrying about 300m in trade goods to a HighSec ganker.

Since I have traded a large amount of isk back and forth between my other account, it is difficult to say what my actual profits have been in my first month of being in the game, but I estimate roughly 1.5 billion isk as the worth on this account is at about 7 billion. All of what I just said can be verified using my api.

if i could edit the guide id add your angle in, it doesnt always work though, many thread where question is dodged is not filled.

i try not get banned by staying on topic. the last 10 posts here had nothing to do with the OP, more to do with jerry fanboi

on topic:

anyone doing a collateralized loan is roleplaying, coz they can easily just sell the item for the isk, without paying interest, and re-buy another one if required.

OP was right to refuse a collateral loan!

Now now RAW, we took a risk that we were happy to take, irrespective of what was outstanding or not and considering that this is not real, a loss of pixelated money is not something to whine over. You win some, you lose some, but at the end of the day my enjoyment of this game was not lessened by the loss.

Well, that's definitely the right attitude to take and I know your investing record is pretty good. But it just seems basic to me that if someone promises something in the op and then doesn't deliver in the thread, then dodges important questions, they just shouldn't be getting investments. 'Silly' may have been the wrong word but I do think the bet there was a strategically poor one.

I'm not overly disagreeing with you and what you are saying. At the time, the risk was worth it in my eyes, but hindsight proved me wrong. But the important thing that i learnt from that, is the asking of the right questions and looking at not what is said but is left unsaid. It may be a game and i enjoy all of the facets that it allows, but doesn't mean i cannot learn from it

Artemis, a long time ago, I ran a bond to get started in trading. it was very successful, paid out over 2.5 Billion in interest, and was repaid in full. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1763408#post1763408

I am going to return the favor and cover half your bond - 500m isk, because someone has to take a risk around here. If you reply with acceptance, i will send over the isk around 0200 on the 9th.

I was surprised at how well you fooled me that you were legit. I recall we talked in the minerbumping chat about region trading of mining equipment around ganking hotspots, and I told you a couple of my tricks for it, then you put up the loan request.

Glad you didn't get any ISK out of me (not that I'm into lending; I prefer actively investing my capital rather than facilitating someone else's active investment). You're the scammer that's come closest, and I respect you for it.