Player Features and Ideas Discussion

-1 to anyone who can't be bothered to spellcheck their own title. Put a minimum amount of effort into it ffs.


Ok, let's start with the issues.

1: Every single pattern has to be stored client side. If each two bit corp can make their own CUSTOM paint job, that's likely to bloat into an insane level of patterns stored clientside in a hurry, unless the pain jobs were restricted along the same sort of corp icon design schemes as current. Pick a color, pick a shape, pick a background, maybe slap a few icons on it.

But that frankly would get boring an not very individualistic in a hurry. Aside from FREEEDOM FLEETS! with red and blue stars and striped Eagles.


2: Database issues. Each and every ship with a skin is currently another entire type of ship from the servers point of view.
An Apocalypse Kador Edition is an entirely new ship that just happens to share the same stats and base shape as the normal apocalypse. So each and every one of your designs (potentially hundreds or thousands for each ship) requires it's own database entry. See how things get problematic in a hurry?

Think the size of the PC ship database multiplying by several thousand over the span of several weeks.

3: Contracts. How do you search for a painted ship? If I search for Dominix does it give me all Domi's painted or not or just unpainted Domi's? Also why would I buy a painted Domi on contracts when I could just buy a plain Domi and paint it my favorite scheme?




TLDR: CCP is working on paint skins. Let them bring us what they think they can deliver before you demand every single possible feature.

When you give a presentation, taking 5 seconds to proofread and fix the worst of the mistakes, even if only limited to looking for red spellcheck lines, is not really an unreasonable expectation.

You don't go to a business interview in ratty jeans and a T-shirt with holes in it because presentation is a very important part of pitching an idea. So when you pitch an idea, but can't be bothered to check it before posting, obvious mistakes reflect poorly on your idea.

TV adds have worked for decades on the principle that if you dress it up well enough, you can sell anything to anyone, no matter how flimsy or useless.

P.S. Loading all the unique characters into systems and onto grids is a massive undertaking on the server. It's why you have Tidi spikes when large groups jump, but drops after they are all loaded in. Hence the driving force behind the Brain in a Box concept. So perhaps not the best comparison, yeah?

That's what it is, I forgot to put on a suit before I wrote the thread, silly me.
Last point on this (please), the title was a mistake, to my everlasting shame.

Any detail the computer has to load is going to slow it down, but that didnt stop CCP from animated ship parts, individual turrets, missle effects, ships appearances that change depending on camera location. I dont think a ships skin color will add anything more that isnt already being dealt with. The biggest problem I see with paint is not how to render it, but how to apply it and include it on the market with enough uniqueness to actually be worth doing.

Paint jobs as rigs is fine, for a solid color. If the paint job is more complicated though,you're still going to have to "...trawl through the horrible contract market..." to find the perfect paint job, only now instead of looking for a ship, you're looking for a rig. Unless of course, you just want pink.

My idea still left room for individuals to create their own paint schemes, for those that want to personalize their ship. But it also let the "industrialist" the ability to create unique ships. If i specialize in manufacturing dominix's for my corp, it would be nice to have something that sets them apart from the horde of blank (or single color) ships that are on the market.

My idea would also create a new profession, one that you didnt have to use, but was available to you. If you and your fleet all want to fly pink thoraxs, you could go on the market, find thorax, subgroup pink, and purchase. But if instead you wanted your corp to fly a unique pink thorax with racing strips or whatever, you could hire an ego manic, a manufacturer, to create them all utilizing the same paint scheme at a reduced price due to them already having the color and pattern bpo's.


If rigs are the way CCP is going, maybe it could be the job of the manufacturer to design different paint schemes for the rigs. Still left with how to find the rig that you want though and removes the ability for the manufacturer to pump out ships all carrying his signature. He could throw a rig on there, but thats the same as saying "all my ships have more armor", because he's installed a trimark on them.


Either way CCP will do as they see fit, but surely we can offer some creative ideas that they might utilize.

The main lag during tidi fights doens't come from graphics, it's why ccp can add spinny bits because all those things are handles by default clientside with no additional data transfer required. Tidi is caused by a lot of players giving the server a lot of commands at the same time. Player skins would require at the very least, another request to the server to download the specific numbers and parameters for said skin. (And no, storing them locally would be quite bloody ridiculous)

General Idea...I flippen love love LOVE it

did I mention that Ioved it?

plus one from me

The Scope loves anything creative for chaos *planning the schematics for his scope fleet uniforms immediantly*