Crime & Punishment

I find your manner of resolution wholly acceptable. To be clear, standard Thunderdome rules shall apply: no warping away once combat has begun, last capsuleer still in their ship wins, correct?

I have consulted the elders of my order and they also assure me that a trial by combat will be sufficient to recant my previous evocation of The Oh Blessed Mother; as such, at the resolution of the Thunderdome the BFFM moniker may be forever removed from us both if we so choose.

However, I find your terms unacceptable nearly to the point of being insulting. Not only is having a falcon ***** of near zero value to me, but I am the financially aggrieved party in this situation, and you would have me offer up a hefty sum in the event of my loss. Not to mention, you would have me steal said hefty sum from a party of your choosing while I have no way of knowing if said party even has said sum or if they have been tipped off to my efforts.

Not being a person of material goals, I am willing to overlook any financial loss on my end if you are willing to do the same. I propose that we proceed with the Thunderdome (location and ship class yet to be determined), and the loser must insert a statement into their forum signature that the winner is "a really awesome dude" for a period of at least one month.

Are these terms acceptable to you sir?

I must say this is a popcorn and best seat in the house moment.
Are you selling tickets for the event?

Yes sir. No warping away will be possible, thanks to the bubble.



The falcon ***** part was more of an insult to me if I lose rather than a benefit to you. I also could not allow you to AWOX or steal from a corp of YOUR choosing, as I would have no way of knowing if you had ties with them or not.



I find your terms acceptable. Name the ship class, and either a system in NPC nullsec or a J-sig of your choosing. I will supply the interdiction bubble.

I propose the following rules:

1) Combatants will orbit the center of the large mobile interdiction bubble at a range of 10km before duel is started.
2) No outside assistance in any way.
3) If you decide to bring a blue-and-green setup, thats your call.
4) Neither party will disclose ship type before the start. You must fit for effect.
5) Both parties will fly the same ship CLASS (frig, cruiser, etc).
6) The duel is over when the first player is podded home.

I concur. I see an opportunity for a right proper event here, and those are always such fun. The only trusted third party I know of is Chribba, but I don't know if this is really his pace. I am open to suggestions for fight promoters.

As for venue, I am flexible as to location, but agree that it should be in NPC Null, preferably near Empire space, not on a main pipe so as to avoid unwanted visitors, and have a station. I have a few locations in mind that I will share with you and/or our mutually-agreed to promoter; it may not be wise to broadcast it's location too far in advance.

As for ship class, my preference is for T1, non-faction cruisers. I feel this provides a good balance of ability, variability, and mobility without cutting into the duration of the fight. No restrictions on modules, rigs, etc. If you prefer something longer in duration, I'd be open to considering a best 2 out of 3 or the like.


EDIT: If you happen to share my love of obscenely long acronyms, we could open this event to the public and limit it to frigates only. It would be the Big Fat Forum Meanie Frigate Free-For-All, or BFFMFFFA. If we went this route, we would most certainly need a promoter.

Also, ROFL

I shall scream it from the top of Jita 4 - 4. Just let me know when and where, all ticket sales will be donated to James 315 or used to generate prizes of some sort (like Fedo's for Bronson's pen ink) or some combination of both.

What about the Plex in his cargo hold lol

While I admire James315 for his ability to instill near-religious fervor into his followers, I am not one of those followers, nor is he a direct party to this matter. What I suggest therefore, if we are indeed to make this an event, is to use any sale of tickets to purchase one Thanatos, to be held in escrow by Chribba or another trusted third party, to be given to the winner. Should the winner choose to donate their prize to James315's cause, that would be their business. Excess ticket sales would be dealt with how the promoters wish. This would allow the stakes to remain closer to the issue at hand, while still allowing for some creative marketing and donations.


While I feel your disdain of basic T1 cruisers to be shortsighted, I certainly do understand the additional fitting options afforded by faction and T2 cruisers. However, given that this is Crime & Punishment, and given that this thread has now started garnering some attention, I have no hesitation admitting that I feel that there is a high probability that you or some other C&P denizen would...interfere with our little trial by combat, either during the event or, more likely I suspect, in transit to the battlefield. I have no issue risking even a few T1 cruisers in such a situation, but me, a lone player, bringing a properly fit faction or T2 cruiser into nullsec where a veritable thieves den is known to be waiting for me is not what I would consider to be operationally sound. I think all here would agree with me that this scenario sounds less like a trial by combat and more like a trap.

I am still favorable to a trial by combat, and I am certainly willing to engage using faction and T2 cruisers, but if you want nullsec, it must be in non-faction T1 cruisers.

These are my terms.



On a more humorous note: PLEX tank is best tank...for the pilot scooping the loot....

I feel losec is the ideal solution. It alleviates my security concerns, it meets my previously stated condition to allow faction/T2 cruiser use as you requested, and let's face it, hisec is no place for two denizens of Crime & Punishment to settle their differences.

In place of a bubble, we could arrange to have a mobile depot or other mobile structure anchored in a safe spot, off grid from any warpables. At the start of the match, both parties warp to said anchor. The first to leave grid loses. As this is a matter of honor, this would allow us to forgo long points, although scrams may still be useful.

So, as this is not a traditional Thunderdome taking place inside of a warp bubble, I must ask: what range restrictions would you have? Must we stay within a certain (assumingly short) range of the anchor, or would we be free to roam anywhere on-grid? The former is more traditional and would likely make for a more brutal fight, but the latter opens up some...interesting possibilities as well. I find either acceptable, so long as it's agreed to well enough in advance.

I accept lowsec, but would still prefer a J-sig system over that. It would allow the bubbles and ensure that only interested parties actually attend.

Range will be the full grid. We don't want to segregate ourselves to brawlers only.

I would also be willing to expand the event... Maybe have a few more contenders? I mean if we are going to charge for tickets, we need to make it worth their money!