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EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher - v1.18.3

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Jaantrag
#221 - 2015-11-26 09:26:28 UTC
i meant open EVE-o after u have clients running and toons logged in.

tryed to mimic your setup .. maxed settings, 3 thubnails about the same size as yours .. but it has the animations as they should only difrence is the hardware and im running w10 myself. so could be something with w8 .. home and office boht running w8 ?
is only the thumbnails with eve-o not animated .. when u look the live preview thumbnail for some other program .. video or something does it have the animation ?

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Mermaids StarFox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#222 - 2015-11-26 14:47:56 UTC
yeah, its only the EVE-O preview that is not animated. if i go to my taskbar preview and mouse over my clients, i get the animation there and any other progam. Both my computers have Windows 8.1. i will try and install Windows 10 (which i hate) in a different hard drive and try it out.
Mermaids StarFox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#223 - 2015-11-27 16:24:03 UTC
so, i locked down the problem. here are my findings.

I installed Windows 10 to test it out on a different platform since i have the same operating system on both my computer (home and office). Once i got everything up and running on W10, i got the latest EVE-O version and started testing previews, etc. To my surprise i was able to configure my 3 clients and now im getting animation on my previews (HURRAY).

here is a screen:

http://i.imgur.com/5a1NYfs.png

The troubleshooting: After i saw how it works in W10 I noticed a wrong behavior on my W8.1 installation, ill try to explain as detailed as possible:

- On windows 10, the way i get animation on my previews is if my other windows are maximized on the background on the main monitor which is the correct behavior. On the EVE-O window, when i have my 3 clientes maximized i get the previews showing up with my character name on it. http://i.imgur.com/xy8b40T.png

- On Windows 8.1, if i do the Same, have my 3 clients running and maximized on the background, the EVE-O doesnt detect my clients running unless i minimize them to the taskbar and thats where i had the problem in which i though, for the preview to work correcty, that my clients had to be minimized in order to show animation. Heres is a Pic with my clients Maximized on Windows 8.1 http://i.imgur.com/KonpP7N.png (it doesnt show anything). Here is another pic with all my 3 clients minimized http://i.imgur.com/Fp3TcNb.png . Please notice how ther last one i minimized has 3 dots as a name (...). I tried with other versions and its the same behavior.

I wanted to share this info with you guys just to give you an idea of my troubleshooting. On my side, ill just fix it by Upgrading my OS to windows 10 since i love the program.

Let me know if you got any further questions.

Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#224 - 2015-11-30 12:39:19 UTC
That is odd. Very odd indeed. Normally, the animations don't work unless the clients are non-minimized. I'm going to take a look into that. However, i do notice in Windows 10 you don't have a little double arrow on the top of your EVE and/or EVE-O Preview windows. That's from a stardock program (though i can't recall the name). perhaps try windows 8.1 without it installed? That does affect Windows Aero IIRC.

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Mermaids StarFox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#225 - 2015-11-30 13:47:12 UTC
hahahahahahahahaha......jesuschrist. This is funny.....Makari Aeron you are a genious....So, that double arrowed is from TeamViewer QuickConnect. Its an addin from Teamviewer to share the window you are using for remote support. I have TeamViewer for work purpose on both my computer http://i.imgur.com/CWqEg44.png . So, i went and disabled the Pugin and Voila, its working like it does on W10.

On W10 it didnt behave like that because i went straight to EVE installation with the fresh OS.

good stuff hehehe....thanks for pointing it out, to be honest i wouldnt have noticed it.
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#226 - 2015-11-30 17:35:57 UTC
Oh duh. Teamviewer. Yeah, for some reason Teamviewer messes with Windows Aero. For some reason I was thinking Stardock. Either way, I wish there was a way to avoid the Teamviewer problem. It's something I'll look into as I'm rewriting.

I'm just glad we could find a solution.

CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.

CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Mermaids StarFox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#227 - 2015-11-30 18:03:42 UTC
yeah i disabled it and its working fine in 8.1. well this served me as a way to retry windows 10 and i ended up liking it hehehe....ill keep you updated if i find any other bug.

Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#228 - 2015-11-30 18:06:33 UTC
Thank you!

CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.

CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Zekora Rally
Negative Density
D3nse Matter
#229 - 2015-11-30 18:34:13 UTC
Makari Aeron wrote:
Just to check, are you clients:
--In Windowed Mode
--Not Minimized

Sadly, I've stalled on development due to work and prepping for the holidays. Hopefully I have more time soon.

I feel like an idiot. Thanks, it works now.
Exil V'irr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#230 - 2016-01-15 02:38:44 UTC
o7

I was wondering if there is a way to change the text color in the XML config.

Thanks a lot!
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#231 - 2016-01-18 14:32:25 UTC
Which text color are you talking about? But no, I don't believe there is.

CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.

CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Guong Men Pareleru
Opera Gomera Liquidate 03
#232 - 2016-01-21 11:33:52 UTC
so when do you plan to make this nice software FINALLY of any use? .. I mean the KEY feature .. easy access to any client window is missing since the first version and still promised for the "next version" when ever it will come out???--

Honestly that would have been the first thing for me to implement if I were the developer.

What use has a client management tool, if I have to go the same circumstances like in regular Windows to access each client.

Please implement it as soon as possible

thanks
Leonis Perthshire
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#233 - 2016-01-21 14:32:54 UTC
Guong Men Pareleru wrote:
so when do you plan to make this nice software FINALLY of any use? .. I mean the KEY feature .. easy access to any client window is missing since the first version and still promised for the "next version" when ever it will come out???--

Honestly that would have been the first thing for me to implement if I were the developer.

What use has a client management tool, if I have to go the same circumstances like in regular Windows to access each client.

Please implement it as soon as possible

thanks



Wao man, if you have that much of a problem whit the app then dont use it. I use it and its really good for far.

Also you could implement that in the project since you see that needed.

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Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#234 - 2016-01-21 15:51:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Makari Aeron
Well, for the last few months the price of oil has slipped drastically which increases my work load as I have more jobs to do around the office. So for the time being my role in development in on hold. I love EVE and working on the program but it doesn't pay my bills. I can count on one hand the number of times i've logged into EVE in the last 3 months, and that's not for lack of want. You're more than welcome to crack open the source code yourself, it is open source for a reason. In addition, I'm not quite sure what you mean "easy access to every client window", could you elaborate, please? While I do wish I had more time to play EVE and write a new version of EVE O Preview, I simply don't. Thank you for your understanding.

CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.

CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Kachiko Sama
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#235 - 2016-01-25 22:51:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kachiko Sama
This is a very useful program to me, thanks to all who contributed to it.

I am however having a very very strange issue for the past few days.

One of my characters seems to be incompatible with the program.

I usually run 4 accounts, and i still can. unless I log in character A. If character A logs in the display of the preview pane crashes oddly and then the client itself hangs. Only the prievew pane and client of character A are affected, other previews and clients work normally while this is occurring If I am not running eve-o preview the client works 100% correctly.

One thought I've had is that perhaps some data that eve-o stores relating to client positioning is fubarred for this character and causing this. Where does eve-o preview store this and can i wipe it manually and test this?

Another option is that this is a very strange aero bug, although the program worked fine previous to 2 days ago.

Al of this is occurring with the latest build of your program on windows 10.

Some screenshots:

preview in initial crashed state: http://puu.sh/mJDrW/b5cc04d1b1.jpg

windows aero preiew of crashed client: http://puu.sh/mJDCB/7f13a02c15.jpg
Makari Aeron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#236 - 2016-01-26 14:57:42 UTC
I've had that problem too, always Windows 10. What I recommend doing is deleting your XML settings files and only starting EVE O Preview AFTER you've logged in all your characters. I've been trying to pin down what is different, but it's something M$ changed since the November update (aka Win10 SP1), but I have exceptionally limited time to do any development (see post above yours).

CCP RedDawn: Ugly people are just playing life on HARD mode. Personally, I'm playing on an INFERNO difficulty.

CCP Goliath: I often believe that the best way to get something done is to shout at the person trying to help you. http://goo.gl/PKGDP

Kachiko Sama
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#237 - 2016-01-26 15:06:19 UTC
Makari Aeron wrote:
I've had that problem too, always Windows 10. What I recommend doing is deleting your XML settings files and only starting EVE O Preview AFTER you've logged in all your characters. I've been trying to pin down what is different, but it's something M$ changed since the November update (aka Win10 SP1), but I have exceptionally limited time to do any development (see post above yours).


Thanks for the reply. Whereabouts are the xml settings files located?
Mermaids StarFox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#238 - 2016-01-26 15:17:57 UTC
Kachiko Sama wrote:
Makari Aeron wrote:
I've had that problem too, always Windows 10. What I recommend doing is deleting your XML settings files and only starting EVE O Preview AFTER you've logged in all your characters. I've been trying to pin down what is different, but it's something M$ changed since the November update (aka Win10 SP1), but I have exceptionally limited time to do any development (see post above yours).


Thanks for the reply. Whereabouts are the xml settings files located?


Its usually where the EVE-O exe file is located. i Wondered this myself, i usually ran the program from my desktop and it scatered the config files all over it. What i did was to create a folder and put the exe file in it. inmediately after you launch it it will create the files to save your local configs.

hope this helps.
Meltur
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#239 - 2016-01-30 14:06:00 UTC
Awesome tool ! Thanks !
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
#240 - 2016-02-24 00:24:36 UTC
Shame it's now seemingly confirmed as a bannable offence to use this. Was a great tool while it lasted.

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