EVE General Discussion

It's a fair analogy. Stealth bombers can't jump after launching a bomb. I can't ECM someone and then jump.

Boo all you want, but launching a warp disrupt probe is an act of aggression and deserve the consequences of that decision.

Aside from really killing double bubble gate tricks,

How does this kill the ability of a DIC to drop a bubble 40k off a gate after the fleet is in warp to slow down the enemy?

I suppose it can strand the DIC in system, but I'm not sure that is 'unfair' for the delay tactic.

Most of the good bubble work I've seen were pulled off before the enemy fleet was on grid with the DIC so the flying coffin defense doesn't seem to apply. In that regard the only thing thats changed is the ability to jump through a gate or dock, and I suppose I need more information as to why thats so horrid.

It's a good change, I like it.

Does flying a Dictor require skill? Yes.

Does a Dictors survival depend on being able to drop a bubble and jump? No, although it was a nice option (that no other ship in the game enjoys).

As for the two tactics you describe, they are valid currently but far from the only reason (or even primary reason) to bring a Dictor.

Usually the choice to bring a Dictor over a Hic is simple... what is your fleet composition? Dictors excel at traveling with fast moving gangs that are going to hit and run, Hictors do not.

Now it is true that the hit and run tactic is now inhibited (IE. the Dictor pilot can do it, but he'll be on the other side of the gate and left behind to fend for himself), with a fast moving gang the need for multiple gates to be bubbled behind them is minimal. One should do quite nicely, unless you were foolish enough to bring ships too slow to keep up.

So now the option to run with the safety blanket of bubbles behind you is less attractive. You either abandon your dictor to fend for himself, or you make a run for it without the bubbles. Frankly, the latter is more exciting for everyone anyway... and (thankfully) we'll see fewer slow vessels tagging along with what was intended to be a fast moving fleet.

I'm going to haver to agree with the other posters -- you deliberately launched an aggressive device. One presumes that you're not launching a warp-interdictor to go ice-mining.

Agreed. Blue KM's as well.

I can't think of a better way to determine who is a wise dictor pilot and who is an idiot that consistently gets his own fleet members killed.

can't say I like it

while it does address the bubble n run, it seems heavy handed and really makes a dictor's life harder that it needs to be

and this stuff about the KMs.

so what happens anyhow?
you bubble and get a timer that lasts the entire time the bubble is active?

what if your bubble outlasts your timer? are you suddenly not agroing space anymore?

do you get on the kms now whenever you bubble in a fleet fight, I can't see how since you havent actually aggressed any one ship or do you simply aggress all ships on grid?

this appears to be a hot sticky mess rolled up in dung.

couldn't you guys just make non-anchored bubbles pop when the owner leaves grid?
seems like that would satisfy the butthurt some DEV or CSM is all frothed up about to make such a questionable change
and best of all it doesn't totally render the dictor useless

This really does need dev clarification

At a glance I see that as a good idea, but the problem is it removes the risk of making a Bad Decision. If an interdictor fails to account for their allies arriving or don't plan a safe escape in advance then they should be held to the same consequence as a bomber or anything else who does the same.

Last I saw it was in Diff format some weeks back:

Unless the mechanics have changed, the launch of the bubble simply flags for aggression, so the timer starts, and I'd imagine it would extend if anyone tries to warp while in it like normal, else the timer expires.