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Hail change unwarranted
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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-11-28 18:02:51 UTC
We will end up with the following:

Hail:
-50% optimal
-30% tracking

Void:
-50% falloff
-25% optimal
-25% tracking
+25% cap usage

Conflagration:
-50% optimal
-30% tracking
+25% cap usage

We'll all agree that -50% optimal on autocannons has only minor consequences. The end result hardly seems balanced. Anyone with Sisi experience that wants to comment on this?
Anah Karah
Frozen LLC
No Visual.
#2 - 2011-11-29 04:27:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Anah Karah
There are many posts up about this un-warrented minmatar buff (did you notice their caps got the only other ratial ship buff in this patch?).
I agree completely that its not needed at all, unless the other 2 turrets are looked at to balance (no hybrids are still terrible sorry)

After saying that, its not going to stop me loading Hail, but i am getting sick of the fact that the only viable pvp choice in todays climate is a projectile based minmatar setup.
I'd like to get some use out of all the other skills i have trained.
Archare
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-29 22:29:54 UTC
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
We will end up with the following:

Hail:
-50% optimal
-30% tracking

Void:
-50% falloff
-25% optimal
-25% tracking
+25% cap usage

Conflagration:
-50% optimal
-30% tracking
+25% cap usage

We'll all agree that -50% optimal on autocannons has only minor consequences. The end result hardly seems balanced. Anyone with Sisi experience that wants to comment on this?


Well CCP Tallest said in the test forums
Quote:
.. also, Hail falloff penalty will be 25% not 0%.


They never changed it after removing the penalty on Sisi. So either they forgot after saying it 3 weeks ago or said FU to hybrids.
Zaine Maltis
Innsmouth Enterprises
#4 - 2011-11-30 15:55:59 UTC
Archare wrote:


Well CCP Tallest said in the test forums
Quote:
.. also, Hail falloff penalty will be 25% not 0%.


They never changed it after removing the penalty on Sisi. So either they forgot after saying it 3 weeks ago or said FU to hybrids.


from the patch notes: Hail has had its falloff penalty removed completely. Don't know if that means they changed their minds....

Innsmouth Enterprises
Daedalus Arcova
The Scope
#5 - 2011-11-30 16:57:52 UTC
Tallest went on vacation shortly after telling us it would be changed to -25%. I wouldn't be surprised if that change got lost in the pre-release chaos.

Can we get a Dev response on whether Hail is supposed to have the -25% falloff penalty or not, please?
2ofSpades
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-11-30 19:05:10 UTC
Leave it up to ccp to listen to all the pvp trolls just trying to get more of an advantage by throwing the game more out of balance. The only reason they do it like that is because they cant bot,wallhack, cheat in any other form but lies.
Daedalus Arcova
The Scope
#7 - 2011-11-30 22:09:16 UTC
2ofSpades wrote:
Leave it up to ccp to listen to all the pvp trolls just trying to get more of an advantage by throwing the game more out of balance. The only reason they do it like that is because they cant bot,wallhack, cheat in any other form but lies.


Er, what?