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Caroline's Star, Sansha Activity, Unusual Things - Compilation.

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#141 - 2014-12-12 14:44:31 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Good write up Ixiris.

Seconded. I am actually legitimately impressed.
mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2014-12-12 15:01:52 UTC
taken from Lirerim metropolis about 10 mins ago carolines star

i have been hanging around this area for a week now , there is a structure here and i'm only 2 jumps away from Eram where site 1 is .
just been keen to see if site 1 has anything to do with the star , which i have to say changing by the hour imo . i'd say some thing will happen in the next week at the rate its changing , can't wait to be honest .

i will stay around here for a while and report back anything unusual

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Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#143 - 2014-12-12 16:22:07 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
The star now appears to have multiple shockwaves originating from different points in space near the central brightness.

Any idea how many seconds of arc apart they seem to be?

I have my suspicions, that whatever caused the cataclysm that shattered planets in Thera and multiple other wormhole systems originated at one point, and either caused the creation of a number of wormholes, or propagated through a number of already open wormholes (given the presence of talocan structures whose purpose appears to be spatial manipulation, I suspect the latter is true, and these systems somehow existed on a network of artificial wormholes separate from the rest of sleeper space), and I believe the unstable wormholes sighted in these shattered systems link to one another.)

If caroline's star is related to the destruction of those systems, and my assumptions are correct, then it would also stand to reason, that there would be multiple wormholes formed, and thus what we thought was one point of light, is actually a few points of light extremely close together.
Of course it remains to be discovered why it has the same appearance from countless points hundreds of lightyears apart, and if it IS related to the destruction of those other systems, why it is still showing, when the event APPEARS to have run its course.


This seems to be the most likely suggestion, also that possibly the theory of Isogen-5 caches is becoming more and more likely by the minute...

Also, Kraid, I need to speak to you at some point, send me a mail.

Thank you all for posting, we're continuing to analyze the data that you're all so graciously providing.

Once again, keep posting!

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Dieter Rams
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#144 - 2014-12-12 17:20:42 UTC
I believe the "star" is actually Bob popping the most expensive bear fit ever.
VTyx Soul
Station Window Lickers
#145 - 2014-12-12 19:56:57 UTC
What if the explosion further interferes with the cloaked unidentified objects and other isogen 5 caches
Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#146 - 2014-12-12 21:17:55 UTC
If these objects have anything to do with Isogen-5, then I would contact the Amarr and ask for help with prayer, because that will be the biggest help we could get. Barring that, if there are any events, prep a rescue industrial, and reach out to the wormhole community, because our hole chains will be the fastest response routes for you.

((OOC: ALXVP and other RP corps like us would lead you through the wh chain for the purpose of a roleplay response to a seyllin type event. But don'count on anything but a podding from non-RP corporations. Just hit up adirector such as Saede Riordan for details.))
GA014382
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#147 - 2014-12-13 09:35:40 UTC  |  Edited by: GA014382
Here are some pictures of some circadian sleepers scanning ores and my mining drones. Then seemingly beaming information(?) back home to some distant star before warping off. This happened in orbit around planet VIII in the Amattens system.

Circadian Sleepers in high sec
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#148 - 2014-12-14 18:42:11 UTC
Whilst travelling across the forge region, I noticed that the shape of carolines star appears to be resolving itself into a form that I witnessed recently, while investigating unknown wormholes.

At the centre of this wormhole was a site, that appeared to have been the epicentre of a cataclysmic event, it was surrounded by five violent wormholes. And visually at a distance there is a strong similarity. I was forced to leave quickly as I was overrun with sleeper aggressors, and My systems unfortunately have been unable to find a way back to this wormhole, I did notice a mix of Talocan and sleeper technology, and the talocan appeared to be active! With spatial rifts being formed. This may be worth investigating should others encounter similar?

This may be completely unrelated, but the similarities are somewhat more than a coincidence, I fear.

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reberto Taredina
Knavish Knight Kingdom
#149 - 2014-12-14 21:42:05 UTC
reberto Taredina
Knavish Knight Kingdom
#150 - 2014-12-14 22:01:48 UTC
theres a chat Chanel called "Caroline's star" where we can disgust our theories in game
Dieter Rams
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#151 - 2014-12-14 23:25:28 UTC
reberto Taredina wrote:
theres a chat Chanel called "Caroline's star" where we can disgust our theories in game


No thanks, no need for disgusting.
Lister Vindaloo
5 Tons of Flax
#152 - 2014-12-15 02:00:03 UTC
I cant help but think, someone or something has used wormholes originating around the Caroline's Star event to either;
1) Mitigate and disperse the damage caused to systems immediately around the event or
2) As a weapon to intentional 'shatter' a number of entire systems.

The first option suggests the damage to the SoE system Thera was purely a coincidence, whoever opened these untraversable wormhole epicenters merely required a certain number of systems within which to disperse the energy of the event.
The second option is frankly frightening but, if Thera was a target, how did the outer regions of the system survive? In this scenario it's probably far more likely that Thera was an origin of the dispersal, performed in order to save the stations from damage, however to counter myself again, did the irregular expanse of the Thera system save the outer regions from 'shattering'.

Now that i've said it out loud, i feel like a weight has lifted, yet the confusion and anticipation remains, given our seeming immortality it's things like this that keeps life alive.

Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#153 - 2014-12-15 07:12:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Torgeir Hekard
Lister Vindaloo wrote:
if Thera was a target, how did the outer regions of the system survive?

Questions:

1) What is the maximum known radius of a shattered system?
2) What is the minimum orbit radius of a surviving planet in Thera?

The simplest explanation as to why outer regions of Thera survived is they are simply too far away from the star. This, though, requires an assumption that each shattered system suffered a fate similar to Seyline. That is, they were deep-fried by their own stars. Which shouldn't be that much of a stretch given that shattered system starts, if I noticed it right, are behaving quite strange.
Or, alternatively, something went off near those stars nasty enough to both fry the system and severely affect the stars themselves (Isogen-5?).

Or maybe it has something to do with the talocan spatial rifts near the epicentres? Maybe being so close to the stars they are creating some sort of gravitational instability?
Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#154 - 2014-12-15 08:36:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Zeko Rena
Was that second bright light always near the original explosion, or is a second explosion starting?

http://postimg.org/image/kjldei7dl/
mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#155 - 2014-12-15 12:59:11 UTC
pic taken from JZV-F4 caroline's star

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Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#156 - 2014-12-15 14:45:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Momiji Sakora
So I stumbled across one of these unidentified stations in Sharji (Still there if you want to investigate). After a few minutes, as previously discovered about 5 Sleepers warped in, but they came in seperately, not all at once, began scanning the beacon, then moved to the station and began scanning that.

I began pulsing smartbombs on the station and the nearest sleeper, no observed change of behavior, they ignored me.

I called in the support of a Domi that was in system, I went back and brought in a SoE Stratios with tackle and between us we tackled and destroyed the 5 Sleeper ships (Chicada Seekers or something to that effect). They made no attempt to run, and began to scan our drones too.

Upon their destruction, I began salvage operations, recovering only scrap metal. We attempted to get close enough to the station to begin a hack, but the object appears to repel approaching ships at ranges between 5,400m and 5,260m, so we weren't able to see if there was an uplink available to hack into.

There was a Sleeper Cache in system at the same time - attempting to hack this made no change to the situation of the station. Upon a successful hack a rift was generated, which I was unable to take the Stratios through due to mass limitations. Sadly due to a failed hack previously, the station guarding the rift self destructed. Again no changes to the station were observed.

The structure appears to be a spire, with between 3 and 4 outer heatsink/fins from what we could tell from our extended observations of the structure. Black clouds as noted in previous discoveries were found surrounding it.

I would estimate that the structure was around 15km in height, possibly similar to that of a control tower?

I have extensive pictures of both the tower, and the sleeper vessels that appeared that I will upload later to the neocom for your perusal.

After giving up on the station, and failing to find them in the belt in system, I began to leave.

We found 5 more Circadian Seekers (For this is the vessels name apparently) scanning the gate and the Amarr Navy ships orbiting it. My new Domi friend notified me that he'd noticed the Sleepers earlier in the day, but had noted they warped off whenever he saw them - this seemingly didn't ring true now - as having locked up the the vessels they once again made no attempt to defend themselves or retreat.

After a minute or two we tackled and destroyed our 6th Sleeper ship of the venture, but as we began to engage the next they warped away. Since then we haven't been able to catch up with them.

Other notables - the system contained at least 1 active wormhole during this time.
Anslo
Scope Works
#157 - 2014-12-15 14:47:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
OK so why is this thing spreading out and going all ocular on us?

EDIT: So our brains working on this said I'm an idiot and that isn't an ocular effect I'm looking at. Multiple waves possibly scattering again and again by hitting....something. Maybe. What is so large and evenly spaced that it lets us see it the way we are is anyone's guess.

EDIT 2: Someone else just reminded me of the old Prophecies. "The appetite of nothing expands over the world." The current expansion, whatever it is, is massive and most likely destructive. I doubt anything would stand against it. This making an expansion that creates, nothing.

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Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#158 - 2014-12-16 05:47:51 UTC
Reading the speculation surrounding this event inspired to dig up some of the old data from the Seyllin incident. This report in particular, by Dr. Raimus Amira, is interesting. It was also rather difficult to find. Had Dr. Amira not been a capsuleer, I highly doubt enough of the report would have remained in public databases to reconstruct. Had I myself not been a capsuleer, I highly doubt that I could have obtained the access required to do so. While reconstructing the report itself was not overly difficult, access to it would not be possible for the average scientist.

Assuming Dr. Amira's data on the nature of the Seyllin Incident is correct, I think that at this point we can safely conclude that Caroline's Star is another Isogen-5 detonation event.

Supporting evidence:

  • Isogen-5, when detonated, creates an exotic form of matter that, when organized properly, results in the formation of wormholes. (Amira, pg 12)
  • This material, due it's exotic properties and non-standard interaction with space-time, is able to travel faster then light. (Amira, pg 13)


Already, the connection to Caroline's Star / Anomaly and the events that followed it's emergence is evident, in particular it's superluminal qualities.

Furthermore:

  • An alteration of Seyllin's magnetic field, still of unknown origin even today, directed the products of the Isogen-5 detonation to hundreds of neighboring stars. Subsequently, wormholes began forming across the New Eden cluster. (Amira, pg 13)
  • The Isogen-5 detonation at Seyllin was not centered on the star, but at a point halfway between it and Seyllin I. (Amira, pg 10)
  • The remains of Caroline's Star do not conform to the nominally-spherical shape expected from that of a naturally occuring supernova; instead, the shockwave/ejecta forms several oblong shapes that appear to be interacting with each other. (source)
  • The mass of solar ejecta (plasma wave) responsible for the destruction of Seyllin I was focused along the same path as the magnetic realignment that dispersed the Isogen-5 byproducts. (Amira, pg 10)


If a similar manipulation occurred in W477-P and resulted in the anomaly we know as Caroline's Star, the phenomena reported by Dr. Amira would adequately explain many of the observed effects of the anomaly, including it's unusual shape. Considering the massively increased scale of the current event compared to Seyllin, it's not unreasonable to assume that the hyper-Euclidean defects caused by an Isogen-5 explosion would affect also Jump Drives, Stargates, and navigation throughout the region, thus also explaining the other mysterious effects observed recently.

Speculation:

Obviously Caroline's Star is a much more massive event the Seyllin event or it's less-documented contemporary cousins. I don't have the navigation data necessary to calculate it's size, and thereby to even estimate it's energy; however it can reasonably be assumed to be multiple orders of magnitude larger. Dr. Amira speculated that Seyllin is the result of an ancient race, perhaps even the mythological Terrans, using the star to propagate a controlled topological defect in the space-time geography. Is it possible that Caroline's Star used a Stellar System in much the same process as Seyllin used a Planetary System? If so, the reach of it's effects may be unimaginable.

The Isogen-5 explanation does not actually solve any mysteries of note. What civilization or entity is responsible for stockpiling such huge amounts of the dangerous mineral? Isogen-5 only occurs in orbit of Type-O Blue type stars, making it very rare; acquiring and storing enough of this material to explain Seyllin is difficult enough; explaining the same for Caroline's Star defies reason.

Are these stockpiles, or the force that made them, somehow related to the cloaked structures now being discovered accross New Eden? Or the Circadian Seeker's mindless search?

Lastly, the most speculative question of them all: given the non-standard interaction between Isogen-5 byproducts and space-time, is it possible that the events we are seeing unfold today are *directly* related to the collapse of the Eve gate so many millennia ago? To my knowledge, no-one has discussed this possibility in a scientific context. Could the Prophecies be based on real phenomena?
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#159 - 2014-12-16 09:57:47 UTC
Has anyone actually managed to secure any quantity of Isogen 5? Or a mineral/product of similar type to one of these Seekers, or the strange stations that have been showing up?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#160 - 2014-12-16 11:40:51 UTC
I know there is Isogen, but I barely can remember what does it consist of.
Can someone explain me, what is this Isogen-5?

Is this a form of some element in Isogen with unusual isotope?
Is it a different crystalline lattice?
Or is it a different chemical composition material, but in the same lattice?

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