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Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#1 - 2014-11-28 20:28:23 UTC
Fozzie recently wrote that ..

"To clarify, wormhole effects do not apply to NPCs."

Does that means the effects of say, Black Hole do not EFFECT the sleepes, or that the sleepers don't PROJECT the effects themselves?

ie, the web nerf in Black Holes, does it mean it's now harder to web sleepers etc or is it only for PvP

Thanks!
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#2 - 2014-11-28 20:34:17 UTC
Yup confirmed dumb question

Blue-Fire Best Fire
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-11-28 20:39:22 UTC  |  Edited by: MooMooDachshundCow
Sleepers do not receive any bonuses/nerfs that are present.

Example: C6 magnetar sleepers DO NOT do an extra 100% DPS

C6 Pulsar sleepers do not have 50% reduced armor resists (though it would be nice).

ETC.

Make sense? The bonuses change the stats of player-flown ships. Not sleepers, Not POSes, only player ships.

edit: because fail.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#4 - 2014-11-28 20:44:05 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
Sleepers do not receive any bonuses/nerfs that are present.

Example: C6 magnetar sleepers DO NOT do an extra 100% DPS

C6 Wolf-Rayet sleepers do not have 50% reduced armor resists (though it would be nice).

ETC.

Make sense? The bonuses change the stats of player-flown ships. Not sleepers, Not POSes, only player ships.



Thanks mate :)
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#5 - 2014-11-28 21:12:28 UTC
Another one, while I'm here,

Are there any WHs currently where solo PVE with Dread / Carrier might be viable?
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#6 - 2014-11-28 23:10:30 UTC
Jessica Duranin
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-11-28 23:55:30 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
C6 Wolf-Rayet sleepers do not have 50% reduced armor resists

Neither do player ships. P
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#8 - 2014-11-29 10:03:54 UTC
Cheers,

Would Thanny + Archon be any good?
Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-11-29 16:33:07 UTC
Jonnie Concrete wrote:
Cheers,

Would Thanny + Archon be any good?


I've only heard this from those who've tried, but dual escalating Thanatos + Archon, triage the archon to rep the thanny, and then kill with the thanny doesn't work. The thanny doesn't do enough damage to kill the sleepers fast enough to before your drones/fighters get alpha' by aggro.

That being said, he didn't try using ewar to pull aggro.

Just a wormhole guy
Foedus Latro
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-11-29 16:36:38 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
See here


Solo dread does work, you just have to be well skilled in order to kill the escalation in time. If you screw up in locks and don't have backup you will die. *cough* Jester *cough*

Just a wormhole guy
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2014-11-29 17:44:45 UTC
Foedus Latro wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:
See here


Solo dread does work, you just have to be well skilled in order to kill the escalation in time. If you screw up in locks and don't have backup you will die. *cough* Jester *cough*


I don't know what you're talking about

also pls l2concatenate posts instead of double posting you ******* casual do you even forums

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Jonnie Concrete
You're Doing It Wrong
#12 - 2014-11-29 20:50:44 UTC
Foedus Latro wrote:
Jonnie Concrete wrote:
Cheers,

Would Thanny + Archon be any good?


I've only heard this from those who've tried, but dual escalating Thanatos + Archon, triage the archon to rep the thanny, and then kill with the thanny doesn't work. The thanny doesn't do enough damage to kill the sleepers fast enough to before your drones/fighters get alpha' by aggro.

That being said, he didn't try using ewar to pull aggro.


But what about killing all the guardians with the thanny as per the vid, then warping in the archon just before the last guardian goes down, spawing another 8 guardians but now you have 30 odd fighters on the field?
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2014-11-29 23:15:02 UTC
Jonnie Concrete wrote:
Foedus Latro wrote:
Jonnie Concrete wrote:
Cheers,

Would Thanny + Archon be any good?


I've only heard this from those who've tried, but dual escalating Thanatos + Archon, triage the archon to rep the thanny, and then kill with the thanny doesn't work. The thanny doesn't do enough damage to kill the sleepers fast enough to before your drones/fighters get alpha' by aggro.

That being said, he didn't try using ewar to pull aggro.


But what about killing all the guardians with the thanny as per the vid, then warping in the archon just before the last guardian goes down, spawing another 8 guardians but now you have 30 odd fighters on the field?


Why not just use 2 thanny then..? If you stagger like you described it'd be fine.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy