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Something to counter drones please
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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#1 - 2014-11-28 11:16:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Boozbaz
If you're fighting a ship with a large drone bay and a bonus to drone damage/hitpoints, it's hard to counter it, even if you put a smartbomb on your ship.

Maybe make something like a smartbomb ECM. It emits a pulse that has a small ECM burst.

*edit* well I'm an idiot....ECM burst is already in the game....
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#2 - 2014-11-28 11:21:39 UTC
Or a ECM - Drone Control Signal Jammer. If successful, drones go idle for the cycle. For simplicity's sake, it's a multi-spectrum jammer getting compare to the ship's sensor strength.

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-11-28 11:34:22 UTC
Tornados are just OP in large numbers, nerf projectile turrets.

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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#4 - 2014-11-28 11:39:41 UTC
Now that I know that there's ECM burst already in the game. I might just try it out and see how well it works. It will take the place of my tracking distruptor but it could help against drones!
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2014-11-28 12:03:02 UTC
Boozbaz wrote:
Now that I know that there's ECM burst already in the game. I might just try it out and see how well it works. It will take the place of my tracking distruptor but it could help against drones!


Don't give your hopes up but an ecm burst has a change of disrupting target lock on you once and 30 seconds later. By that time everything but battleships will have you locked back in no time and still shooting you.

So you either be aligned to somewhere when you "fire" it.

What it not does is preventing to lock you back up and continue to shoot you.

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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#6 - 2014-11-28 12:25:17 UTC
Well, the odds of it working on a battleship are pretty low anyway. Like less than 50%, this would be mainly used to break drone aggro when in solo pvp. It could be used in small gangs but there's a chance of jamming your own teammates. The beauty of the ECM burst is that with skills it has a 100% chance to jam hobgoblins. And an 81% chance to jam hammerheads. Not bad.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2014-11-28 12:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade

  • If you, by chance, refer to Ishtars, you just need to hunt them around while you approach their sentries and kill them easily, as you can't do anything else anyways. Ishtars run out of Sentries very quickly if you focus your efforts on killing them. Without Sentries, Ishtars have no defense nor offense, and they need to restock in a station or POS'd carrier where you can camp them in. Use your own ship weapons and drones intelligently: when you see that you can't hit the Ishtars, concentrate on their drones instead of trying to hit the drone ship.
  • You can send proper frigate wings towards the Ishtars, which warps in from behind them and catch them. Their sentries won't be able to do anything to the frigs. These frigates can web and scram the Ishtars and your main DPS can catch up and get them.
  • Bombs as well as Smartbombs work as well. Bombers in particular can either wipe balls of drones with 1 or 2 waves, or wipe the ships off the field in case of Dominixes.
  • You can jam and damp the drone mothership so that it can't lock on targets and thus can't change targets after the first attack order to the drones. You could also be intelligent and figure out the other fleets lead ship, Ishtars assign their drones to, which you then can damp and jam.
  • You can force them to warp around the grind or off the field, which results in the loss of the connection to the drones. They can reconnect once, but after that they need to wait out a cooldown timer.
  • You can concentrate on their Logistics and Ewar support. Without Logistics, Isthar fleets do not survive long and drones are even easier to kill. Without Ewar support (webs/paints mainly), Sentries hit less hard and you can tank easier or outmaneuver them easier.
  • If you are in BS, you can MJD onto the drones or the Isthars and catch them. If you are in the drone ball, you can smartbomb them off or kill them with close-range ammo easily. The same works with non-attack Battlecruisers.


I don't know what you are doing wrong, but I do know that Ishtars and Dominixes have a whole lot of possible countermeasures and counters. Why do they need more counters?

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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#8 - 2014-11-29 09:41:37 UTC
I was thinking more of things like 1v1 fights with Worms in novice complexes in faction warfare.

ECM Burst is not sounding like a good counter anymore, since it only breaks target lock, and doesn't actually jam the targeting system for 20 seconds.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#9 - 2014-11-29 13:08:43 UTC
i thought smart bombs were a counter

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Boozbaz
Securitech Industries
#10 - 2014-11-29 13:19:28 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
i thought smart bombs were a counter



Not in a 1v1 against a Worm.

How the ***** do you counter a worm?!
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2014-11-29 13:38:22 UTC
You kill their drones with your guns? Takes some time, but most Worms kite you anyways and your frigate weapons can't hit them. So: Web/Scram them and kill them. Takes some time, but you don't have anything else to do. And while you take care of the drones, you call in a friend and get a scram on the Worm because otherwise it's just going to run after you killed the drones.

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