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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#101 - 2014-12-01 02:38:12 UTC
Nyphur wrote:
Any ideas on measuring the brightness accurately?

I'd take a screenshot, put it in a graphics program and measure the length of the rays and/or the RGB colour composition. Then set up a table with the values and sort them through.
Siegfried Tahl
STCorp
#102 - 2014-12-01 02:41:45 UTC
Doesnt this news http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/stellar-anomaly-detected-by-capsuleers/
Quote:
....enabled independent stellar cartographers in the capsuleer community to locate the anomaly in the isolated UUA-F4 region, and later to pinpoint it in the close vicinity of the W477-P system....

confirm that W477-P is the one?
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#103 - 2014-12-01 02:44:35 UTC
Siegfried Tahl wrote:
Doesnt this news http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/stellar-anomaly-detected-by-capsuleers/
Quote:
....enabled independent stellar cartographers in the capsuleer community to locate the anomaly in the isolated UUA-F4 region, and later to pinpoint it in the close vicinity of the W477-P system....

confirm that W477-P is the one?

Yes, I was pretty sure that an official article makes it pretty certain P

Also, looking at the system, it's smack dab in the middle of the huge inaccessible area that includes Jove Space, UUA-F4, and the massive empty area surrounding it. If the effects of the supernova spread somehow, it'd make sense for the central system to be the origin.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2014-12-01 03:04:48 UTC
Just to throw a monkey wrench in here: one of the most recently published EVE chronicles is a short story about a supposed Minmatar mythological figure taking over a research facility and flying it to godknowswhere.

Just to add another angle here. Probably means nothing, but what the hell?

Yetamo

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
#105 - 2014-12-01 04:02:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Nyphur
Siegfried Tahl wrote:
Doesnt this news http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/stellar-anomaly-detected-by-capsuleers/
Quote:
....enabled independent stellar cartographers in the capsuleer community to locate the anomaly in the isolated UUA-F4 region, and later to pinpoint it in the close vicinity of the W477-P system....

confirm that W477-P is the one?

It'd still be good to confirm the location of the star empirically, as being close to the vicinity of W477-P could still cover a lot of area. I think that Thera is likely the J7HZ-F system about 15 lightyears away from W477-P because it's the only type A0 star in the region, and it's a bit coincidental that it's right next to where the star is reported.

Abrazzar wrote:
Nyphur wrote:
Any ideas on measuring the brightness accurately?

I'd take a screenshot, put it in a graphics program and measure the length of the rays and/or the RGB colour composition. Then set up a table with the values and sort them through.

Good idea, it's definitely worth a shot. I'll see if I can get a chance to try this over the next few days and will report back if I confirm anything.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#106 - 2014-12-01 11:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
I believe that the current bright star phenomenon is a great help in knowing more about the first brigth star we had in EvE.

I also ran an ingame article on it here: Strange bright star appears in the sky across New Eden!

Back then, when it appeared, nobody had a clue what it meant, often dismissed as a result of a bug introduced (considering one of the nicknames of the star was Boot.ini Star, it wasn't that far fetched to think so)
CCP did ran several ingame articles on it, but from the little info I managed to gather, people didn't put much effort in getting to know more about it (unlike the current bright star!)

A year later Seyllin happened, stars make their planets go boom & leave shattered worlds, also wormholes emerged. By then most folks had forgotten about the first bright star, at the time thought to be two separate events.

Now with the current Bright Star (or Caroline's Star as it is often affectionately called) and knowing it leads to new Wormhole systems, we can look at these two events in a new light, as they're probably related yet differ greatly in power.

The first bright star was very far away, as determined by the Sanctuary organisation (a branch of the Sisters of Eve). Due to this, it's luminosity was about equal in every system of Eve. This also reveals that whatever caused the first bright star was a calamity of great power.
Due to distance, the effects only managed to reach us a year later, resulting in the Seyllin incident & arrival of wormholes. However due to the calamity's power, enough instability was created to grant us access to thousands of wormhole systems we couldn't access prior.

Now if we compare this to Caroline's Star (the second bright Star) and knowing that'll it leads to new wormhole systems, we can deduct this:
The current bright star is less powerful, despite it being brighter then the old in certain locations. This is because it's much closer and it's brightness dims the farther you go, being an unusual background star in the fartest regions from Jove/UUA space (and invisible in wormhole space/anoikis due to distance). Also as a result of it being less powerful: less new wormhole systems (just over 100 new systems (still neat to get that many new places to visit!)
Also due to it much closer, the effects will be here much faster (weeks/days)? Rhea isn't so far anymore!

One major issue between the two is this: shattered worlds.
There aren't many in current wormhole space, while the new space will consist almost solely out of these. Either the first bright star was so massively powerful in Anoikis that it simply caused the core location of the event to be so unstable that it couldn't be accessed (hence not seeing the shattered systems) or the existence of the gate-network somehow amplified the power of the second bright Star anomaly that it shattered nearly every planet in the region along with the destruction of the gate-network (in which we should be happy it wasn't connected to our own!)

Note this is a theory of mine, with the release of Rhea we might see some new answers (and questions?) related to wormholes, sleepers and what caused it all, or to what end it all leads towards.

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Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation
#107 - 2014-12-01 11:39:18 UTC
I haven't double checked but as far as i know in Anoikis ( wh space ) there are two systems with shattered plantes and the bright star appeared the first time for two sepparate occasions ( according to evelopedia ).
So is it too far fetched to deduce taht those two wh systems were the epicentre of bright star the first time ?

Also i agree that the gate network would probably amplify the event, because gates basically fold space/time and thus perpetuating the "shock wave" or whatever into next system like it happend in it.
Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2014-12-01 13:17:21 UTC
I was vaguely looking out for this as I was wandering around this weekend ... and yes, most definelty it is there, and visible from the entire cluster, well, empire cluster at least. Seemed to me to get bigger the closer you headed towards Jove-ish area ... but, that could be my imagination.

Curious.

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Lucius Avenus
Intransigent Ore
#109 - 2014-12-04 13:35:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucius Avenus
is it a super nova that will bang and wallop out Thera?

I only noticed it about a week ago, as it sits above gates I use regularly. I thought I had just not noticed it before, but given the talk I noticed in a few main hubs, then finding a video about it (wtf? basically..) then this thread - and considering what's coming up - is the star to do with Thera?

is it in northern Ginnungagap (the yawning divide?) which in Norse mythology was a great vast empty space where it is said Ymir rested a-slumber... hmmmm...
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#110 - 2014-12-04 14:02:11 UTC
I saw it yesterday in Devoid, Enka cosntellation. I thought it was system star first. I switched off some graphic setting because of clouds in complex, when i turn it back i saw shadow is on wrong side of the hull...
Something big incoming, brace for impact!!!
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Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#111 - 2014-12-04 14:55:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Soldarius
Seen from N-DQ02 in Great Wildlands, the star is directly dead center on Ginungagap, and about 5 degress down and right of galactic north and the local solar ecliptic.

edit: I'm assuming the big nebula is Ginnungagap. Or it may just be the remains of a super-nova.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Dinta Zembo
Tea. Earl Grey. Cold.
#112 - 2014-12-07 20:53:34 UTC
http://puu.sh/dl9Nb/5af1c86d90.jpg

looks like some kind of shockwave? I didn't see it when I zoomed in a few days ago
Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#113 - 2014-12-10 13:19:27 UTC
Dinta Zembo wrote:
http://puu.sh/dl9Nb/5af1c86d90.jpg

looks like some kind of shockwave? I didn't see it when I zoomed in a few days ago



ooooh, funky

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STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#114 - 2014-12-10 13:45:49 UTC
Dinta Zembo wrote:
http://puu.sh/dl9Nb/5af1c86d90.jpg

looks like some kind of shockwave? I didn't see it when I zoomed in a few days ago

It's even bigger now- it definitely looks like a shockwave, but it isn't centered on the star. At this point, my best guess is that it's either a separate event, or it's a 'countermeasure' to try to limit the damage of the nova.
HydrogenBond Shaishi
C-H-C
#115 - 2014-12-10 16:02:00 UTC  |  Edited by: HydrogenBond Shaishi
CCP: see how hard up everyone is for new content?

Shockwave shatters wormholes. Nothing to see here.
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
#116 - 2014-12-10 16:52:26 UTC
Sleepers are harvesting technologie to redirect the gates i nthe anomaly to new wormhole like systems. They anomalies, plexes and sleepers contain i nthere new hybrid technologie from which new stargates can be build. This will be the first step to inhabit new space, as a true new frontier.

It has started!

(Yes i have dev intell)
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#117 - 2014-12-10 17:38:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Yeah, Thera is near Caroline's star. Yeah, wormhole is shattered, Yeah, there is ancient Talocan reactor near the star. Isogen 5 incident as usual.
Phugoid
Absolute Order XL
Absolute Honor
#118 - 2014-12-10 19:37:00 UTC
Oh come on peeps, its really quite simple.
If you follow the star eventually you will come across a manger, probs in Minmatar space, and there you will find a tiny lil clone in a bundle, surrounded by tons of Plex!
Some say it's something wonderful!

:P

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Phugoid
Absolute Order XL
Absolute Honor
#119 - 2014-12-10 19:42:44 UTC
Nyphur wrote:
I'm just thinking, if we assume that the star's brightness depends on distance (which it seems to), we can work out its exact location very easily. Just take accurate measurements of its brightness in 4 known locations far apart, map the brightnesses to an arbitrary distance scale and use quadlateration to determine the location of the star. We might need to iterate through a full range of brightness-to-distance mappings and assume that the brightness drops off by the square of the distance but we should be able to get co-ordinates out that match up with a system in EVE.

I wrote a program to do quadlateration back in 2005 that I used for busting safespots, so if we have a way to objectively measure the brightness of the star I could give it a go when I get a chance. Any ideas on measuring the brightness accurately?


yes....u can start by removing your goggles! :P

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Phil Hinken
Doomheim
#120 - 2014-12-10 22:20:58 UTC
As someone who spends most of his time in the southern end of the galaxy I haven't seen this new star yet. However, most have stated that it can be seen from the core systems. So, basically, this doesn't affect me as long as the giant quasar thing doesn't impede factional warfare.

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