EVE General Discussion

CCP... I'm impressed.

Less pay to win is always a good thing and yes paying for software that can replicate commands to multiple clients is paying to win.

I'm not saying you can't complain. But if you really want to quit the game over it, then just go quietly.

That is TQ. Sisi currently has a different login screen.

I have to say, I find the decision to 'outlaw' key broadcasting disappointing from a personal perspective.

Whilst the ability to multibox will remain, not everyone has the dexterity to operate multiple accounts due to disability/illness/infirmity and the removal of broadcasting kind of renders multiboxing redundant for some.

It's further disappointing from a sandbox perspective.

When I was first introduced to Eve, one of the main selling points was it's open ended nature.. the ability to 'do what you want' within the parameters set. It seems that in the time I've been subbed to Eve, those parameters have been narrowed and in effect, the sandbox is shrinking.

I know that PVP is an integral part of Eve, but even so there are saddos like myself that aren't that into it and get our kicks by being part of an industrial process (mining, building etc).

This new change hampers folk like me from doing 'what I want', but as CCP define the parameters, or the boundaries of the sandbox, I have to just suck it up and accept it. C'est la vie.

Some of the reasons cited in this thread for the change in parameters though, don't hold up that well under scrutiny if that same reasoning is applied to other aspects of the game.

There are references to a 'pure game', which I perceive to mean a scenario where nobody gains an advantage through the use of key broadcasting and a fairer, more equal basis for the game is applied...a level playing field of sorts. The trouble with this kind of reasoning is that Eve is anything but fair and equal.

There are many kinds of advantage that can be brought to influence an advantage to the game. A player with a 50 mill SP pilot will have more options and possibilities than a player with a 5 mill SP pilot. A player with 10 bill isk in the bank will have more options and access to better ships/equipment than a player with 100 mill isk in the bank.

What would happen if this level playing field viewpoint was applied to SP and isk for example? Would the game be better if everyone was given a pilot with 10 mill SP to spend but it wasn't possible to advance beyond that 10 mill SP starting point?

Would the game be better if every new player was given 500 mill isk on starting the game and it was impossible to amass any more than 500 mill?

Call me cynical, but I could see that advice to HTFU disappearing rapidly if players saw their SP or isk advantages stripped away to provide a level playing field.

That's by the by though I suppose. As players, we're all ultimately at the mercy of the parameters set for the sandbox by CCP.

I do have a question for any CCP 'staff' that happen to see this, that I'd be grateful if it was answered please:

To those of us who've paid advance subs on pilots that we won't be using once the changes take effect, would CCP please consider transferring game time credits between different accounts?

I'll be going back to using just 1, maybe 2 accounts due to the outlawing of key broadcasting. This means I have advance subs paid on accounts that I won't be using. Rather than seeing that game time credit go to waste, It'd be nice if it were possible to swap that credit to the 1 or 2 accounts that I will continue to use.

Please note, this isn't a request for a refund of cash, it's a request to transfer game time credits. CCP wouldn't lose any money as it's already been paid, but it would soften the blow for folk like me that won't be able to use multiple accounts effectively due to the changes.

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It's a game company changing a rule about how they will allow people to play their game, ffs. The people affected by this change are not victims.

34 subs lapsed from me. 5000 I'm aware of sinking. I'm quite curious how far reaching this will be. And at the end of the day? Ccp is the real loser here in terms of value. And the way ccp does customer feedback is a main factor of why they'll most likely never reach millions of subs like other mmo. Oh and this is a game. Not terribly hard to replace.

On a unrelated note, anyone notice since our old economist left ccp, that they've done progressively worse?

That's also assuming that none of the ISBoxer accounts paid with PLEX. For those that were paid for with PLEX, CCP will lose no money, as the ISK price of PLEX will decrease to the point that people will eventually be able to afford it. Since we don't know the percentage, that's a wild guess.

Keep all of the accounts? That's not going to happen. Keep 1000? That's doable. So if only 20% of ISBoxer accounts unsubbing were paid for in RL cash, CCP has it covered.