EVE General Discussion

From my read the only mass anything here is the people in loud SUPPORT of this move. Let the botters leave to farm another game. I don't care in the slightest.

Any software that is not banned by the licensing agreement and clarified by the original post is not discussed here. If an uncertainly exists any such software can be petitioned for clarification.

I realise that people are desperately trying to find a loophole, and CCP have been amazingly clear as to WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED. If you think you have found a loophole, give it up, they have made their decision.

I also point out, that if anyone thinks that Trying to sow the maximum confusion or creating spurious petitions to overwhelm them will benefit in some way? It is very unlikely to end well, and not recommended. Even if one feels the accounts are worthless and it is worth the risk. It isn't. those who decide such things, will not be amused.

The days of ISObox plenty are coming to an end, whether one likes it or not. Accept it, being in denial, will just frustrate.

Just wanna throw this out there to start, I am always amazed how players can support actions taken to shrink their player base. That actually like seeing people quit and their game shrivel. I laugh every time. With that said...



This seems like a far more harmful action to be taking without concurrent buffs within the game. I personally do not ISBox, yet can see it's necessity within a game with a shrinking player base for market stability. Think about it's primary use: Mining. Can you tell me that you think that when this starts being enforced that mineral prices will not begin to skyrocket? Do you believe that ship, module, ammo, and drone prices will not go up in turn? Simple case of supply and demand people. This will not cut off your supply entirely, but it will completely remove a large percentage of your suppliers. I would assume most players who make use of this program are strongly contemplating unloading their characters and leaving entirely.

While most of us can say that the multiboxing suicide ganks and bombers are annoying.. and may be glad to see their frequency decline (they will NEVER stop unless ccp wants to kill this game entirely).. this action is too broad without a patch hitting concurrently increasing the mineral payouts of refining modules and ore. CCP is removing a large portion of the game supply without supplementing it with anything. More players will not start mining until the prices are already increasing making the profits worth their time to change their professions. By that time the damage has been done and while the market will stabilize it will be much higher than what we currently see.

CCP this is too broad an action. Some people are upset about the pvp related actions of that segment of the player base. Those you see crying now about multiboxing miners don't seem to understand what they actually contribute to the game or are simply bandwagoning trolls who do understand but just like to watch the world burn.



I'll end with this I really have no horse in this game. Just wanted to throw that out there and maybe open some eyes.

Goons are crying and trying to derail this into usual goon tear topics, this time it's afk cloackers, but could be anything.
That means we have a good change.

I do see a loophole in the condition, but will ask for a clarification in a petition to not reveal it. Out of pure academic interest, mind you, despite having alts, I never used multiboxing software or input automation of any kind. I might say that policy is very vague and the part "but not limited to" fails to draw a clear line, possibly prosecuting anything that resembles input automation/multiplication, or being quite inefficient, because there's no indication where this policy stops.

Well, this is quite specifically about rules pertaining to out-of-game actions, and not changes to existing in-game features.

If this were about behavior and not external influence using 3rd party apps it would also be verboten to run multiple clients on the same PC.

That would figure. First thing I did when I saw this post was switch training to stealth bombers/cyno V.

See it from this side ... we just try to get a lot of rookies into the game. do we really want to tell them "oh and you can run in 10-20 people controlled by isboxer to kill you" or "you have to compete with 20 isboxed miners, and most of the time they will clear out the ice belt that you are happy you get one load of ice before it is gone"

is that really the message you want to tell them?

I don't understand why this has to apply to mining or ratting. You're going to lose hundreds of subscriptions over this CCP. What a terrible decision this is.

Please place an exception where broadcasting commands to mine rocks, shoot rats, jettison cargo, etc. is all permitted.

It is only the "logical" next step if you have failed to engage your brain. Does AFK cloaking utilize third party software? No. End discussion.

I believe that CCP also indicated they will look at AFK cloaking in the context of a major Sov overhaul.

CONDI corps and their recruiting policies, sigh