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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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EvilweaselFinance
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#461 - 2014-11-25 18:48:16 UTC
Astroyka wrote:

You have made my point.

unless your point was to fall flat on your face, i don't believe he did

it is amazing how many idiots feel that people who pay with plex are giving CCP space money and ccp accepts that space money for the subscription
Kuga
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#462 - 2014-11-25 18:48:21 UTC
Thanks for taking action on this, CCP. The issue of software using multi box bombers has been becoming a significant issue in null sec space of late. I hope this will also benefit non-keystroke replicating software using miners to become competitive again.

There will no doubt be many tears from those who would seek to abuse the multi boxing facility with the use of replicative keystroke software, but this change can only be good in the long term.
Zedutchman
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#463 - 2014-11-25 18:48:57 UTC
Thank god..... Time to start buying Ice.....
Apo Lamperouge
#464 - 2014-11-25 18:49:08 UTC
Soren Oboro wrote:
DEAD EVE !!!!!


All the players in eve have more then two, or 10 accounts do you really think what all of us will go out and buy an computer that had 10 or 20 ******* monitors REALLY!!! **** NO!!!! I will Not

unsubbed will play until the First!!!! GOOD BYE CCP AND ITS DUMM ASS POLITICS



I will buy your accounts for 1 isk.

Not like you need the isk anyway. Bye bye lardass

Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#465 - 2014-11-25 18:49:27 UTC
Rawthorm wrote:
While I've never used software like ISBoxer, I can imagine that it's use probably increased quality of life for most non-ISBox using eve players.

BomberBox fleets were quite rare and despite the number of butt hurt people who've clearly not been paying attention and got caught by one, I don't think they began to come close to outweighing the benefits such as making Ice easy to harvest leaving the rest of us time to actually play the more fun aspects of EvE rather than spend half our lives slowly grinding icecubes.
Almost every player in EvE has benefited from cheaper fuel and cheaper ships because of those using ISBoxer, so is an overriding ban worth it just to get rid of a few trolling bombers on your space?

I think it's seriously time for CCP to look into quality of life improvements for running infrastructure and give us bigger and better gear to use (and put at risk) to cut down the time spent doing all the boring monotonous stuff.


bomber fleets got a bit less common because their most common pray (battleships) got less common.
indig0F10w
Weed smokers HQ
#466 - 2014-11-25 18:50:21 UTC
Good work CCP, no more one man armies. Botter tears are soaking this topic deep ;)
Apo Lamperouge
#467 - 2014-11-25 18:50:25 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
The rage, the smug, the self important CSM posts, it's all to much to take in.


OOOH OOH point me to the self important CSM posts!!!

Sometimes a knife right through your heart is exactly what you need.
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#468 - 2014-11-25 18:50:39 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
I think Taylor Swift has a song for you to quote when you unsub.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4iX5D9Z64


PL really has a thing for Taylor Swift it seems :p
COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#469 - 2014-11-25 18:50:56 UTC  |  Edited by: COMM4NDER
Man this is awesome!

Quite suprised noone posted this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIR51_J_qY

[url=https://github.com/CommanderAlchemy/.bin/blob/master/eve] EVE - Online Launcher [Linux] [/url] Installs, launches character prefixes (both SISI & Tranquility). Simplescreenrecorder shm inject
Rear Admiral Charlie
Dank Krabs and Spicy Memes
Rainbow Knights
#470 - 2014-11-25 18:51:07 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Rear Admiral Charlie wrote:
To everybody complaining about isboxer I hope your ready to strap a miner to your ass because mineral prices are going to spike.


And the people who are actually MANUALLY mining as used to be the norm will be gratefull for it .


i dont want to see "people" mining i want to see you mining
Dustpuppy
New Eden Ferengi
#471 - 2014-11-25 18:51:18 UTC
Radkiel wrote:
Gina Taroen wrote:
lol wonder how many people will quit because of this :D


I just unsubbed all of my accounts, I'll play until the 1st then find another game.Cry

I fail to see how multiboxing affects anyone around me.


Well let say it in a nice way: I don't believe you when you say "I fail to see..."

Here is s nice video of an isboxer demonstrating ratting with 14 clients at the same time on a single computer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlm4XrR0VvU

And look at the comments:

1) "once your rolling its about 80-100m per account per hour" -> 1.4 billion/hour
2) " I've been mining using IS Boxer for over a year [...]I do about 6b ISK a day mining in Null."

I don't believe you when you say "I pay for my accounts", I'd rather say you (just like the two quoted from YT) use isboxer to generate a lot of income which is used for buying plexes and what I also suspect to use the additional income for rmt.

I won't miss these kind of players for a single second.
Astroyka
IXXAXAAR
#472 - 2014-11-25 18:51:50 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
An account subscribed with PLEX is equals to an account subscribed by a subscription package. There is no distinction between them and both options give money to CCP.

Your original point doesn't stand.


Both options do give cash to CCP at some point, but I doubt the majority of isboxers are actually paying hard cash for PLEX and instead are buying them from the open market. Sure the loss of so many accounts will hit the PLEX market, but people will still buy GTC (etc.) to convert to PLEX as its the easiest way to get large amounts of ingame currency.

CCP are clearly happy to take the hit, which I still think will be small, for the benefit of the game.

Astroyka

A New Eden pilot, fighting against slavery in New Eden

www.astroyka.net

@Astroyka
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#473 - 2014-11-25 18:55:16 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
So, because broadcasting is being banned as of 01 Jan 2015, does that mean on 01 Jan 2015, cloaks will be reverted again to not decloaking each other while cloaked since the main reason this was changed back was to nerf broadcasting bombers together?


Keep up with the times... they already changed their minds on that one before even implementing it. Nothing to revert.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#474 - 2014-11-25 18:55:42 UTC
I like CCP Falcon.

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#475 - 2014-11-25 18:56:51 UTC
FINALLY.





Falcon added to 'Is owed a beer' list.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#476 - 2014-11-25 18:58:05 UTC
The price of plex is going to CRASH!!!

Cash out or you will regret it.
El Space Mariachi
Zero Fun Allowed
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#477 - 2014-11-25 18:58:53 UTC
Sir SmashAlot wrote:
The price of plex is going to CRASH!!!

Cash out or you will regret it.


already far too late for that my friend ))) wise monocle baron cashed out at 1b per unit xaxaxaxaxa

gay gamers for jesus
Dmitry Kuvora
Sovetsky Soyuz
#478 - 2014-11-25 18:59:56 UTC
ура товарищи !
i glad to hear this news
Pen Ris
Eden Risk Management
Fedaykin.
#479 - 2014-11-25 19:00:27 UTC
Kenneth Feld wrote:


Just thinking outloud, I could make a script to cycle the windows and do the commands a window at a time, them I am not broadcasting to multiple clients - this may work after all


It appears Falcon predicted that kind of work-a-round and reiterated input automation is strictly prohibited. Pushing one key and having it run a single or set of commands on individual clients, in an automated order is input automation.

Input Automation remains strictly prohibited, and is policed under our suspension and ban policy.
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#480 - 2014-11-25 19:00:44 UTC
XXXMina wrote:
this is not right, you cant change the rules after 10 years, i got 5 accounts because it made sense with how the game is. now i cant use what little automation i take advantage of (just pressing the f keys ) . also jump fatigue and jump range change suxx: this is a space sim, way to clip our wings.


PS: im unsubbing all my accounts . you have till my 3 month sub runs out to fix this game.


They can, and they did.

If they couldn't change the rules after 10 years, why did they change the jump drive range on supers? Or the clone costs? or a plethora of other things a video game company does to keep their game fresh?

It's called "changing with the times" my friend.