EVE General Discussion

I'm curious as to what questions remain unanswered after this.

Using ISBoxer to cheat is no longer allowed. You can only control one client at a time with one click of the mouse, simple as that.

Stop using spoofing, stop using input duplication, stop using uber macros.

How could it be any more clear?

1) Is the use of rollover bars and Round Robin, which send one action to one client per click or keypress or mouse action, legal? According to every "source", they should be, however we have no less than 6 people on our forums, at least one of whom was the damn-near CREATOR of the rollover method, banned from EVE Online.

2) Why has CCP Falcon lied to our community after first agreeing to a sit-down (which was confirmed through a CSM member, by the way), and then blowing it off later on?

3) How can 6A3 and the third party policy be interpreted to only include ISBoxers while simultaneously not including people who manually dualbox accounts, people who use third party tools such as EVEMon, EFT, PYFA, Siggy, Fuzzworks (no offense), and numerous others that I have no doubt missed?

4) Why is CCP taking a stand against ISBoxer when there are confirmed accounts of super account sharing? Is this the start of CCP enforcing all their policies, not just the ones that are convenient or that are specifically pushed by a hostile CSM member who insulted EVE players and acted in a manner not becoming a CSM member when he was invited to speak on a neutral forum?

No doubt I'm missing a few, but it's late where I am.

e: And 5th) Has the CSM run it's course? The overwhelming majority (95%, +/-) of people who I've actually sat down and talked to (amazing when you do that) admitted there was a distinct difference between ISBoxers and botters. Additionally, an overwhelming majority of those players did not see the problem with ISBoxing after demonstrating the difficulty of setting up the program, taking the training time into account, taking the ISK vs risk factor into account whereby a player is putting more ISK into the equation and is rewarded by his gamble. The players additionally gave me a massive "not really" when asked whether or not they asked the CSM to take care of this issue other than the once-a-week "grr ISBoxer" thread in GD. Threads, which I may remind you, which were summarily shot down by players, CCP, and CSM members alike for the exact reasons which I and other players have raised and attempted to ask CCP in this thread, in petitions, on twitter, and even via email.

In CCP falcons original post this is clearly not the case. ISBoxer is clearly allowed. So either your projecting your own wishes, or you didn't even read the OP or even the fist page of posts.

I didn't say it wasn't. Cheating with it sure isn't, though. And people have been cheating with it for a long, long time until recently.

Ignore the Troll Nolak, he is wasting your time.

So ccp, clarification please.

[Citation Needed]
And again, define cheating? CCP is still allowing one to multibox 50 barges. Not even mentioning the hilariously inept idea that someone would multibox 50 barges to mine a single asteroid, as that would result in half-finished mining cycles, half-empty cargo holds, and a very inefficient way to conduct one's business mining altogether.

So I ask you again. What is your definition of "cheating"?

That's really great news. Using multiboxing (isBoxer) to fly mulptiple ships like a single one is LAME.
It's like playing eve in the easy mode and even worse, it's cheating.

I know a guy that used to fly a 20 Tornadoes this way, and sometimes 20 smartbombing battleships. He could kill instantly almost any kind of ship and I always told him this was not fair play.

Thanks CCP !

I'm still playing and multiboxing VGs.

I also know of at least one other fellow who uses isboxer but he only uses videoFX (like me) and he isn't banned either.

till enough pilots are blaming it and bribe a csm to get ccp into calling it a banable offense...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tiBRu9Q40Y&feature=youtu.be

This is my finalized 20-man Incursion setup. You can see that there's zero multiplexing and a single mouse click or button click only ever generates one action to one client. If CCP adds a keybind to deploy and/or assist drones, I'll be down to 10-12 minute sites.