EVE General Discussion

Thread derailing...

Who cares about evemon. I don't.

What i care about is that something that was fine for 10 years no longer is. A CSM person posted to claim that 99% think mulitboxing is cheating, finally we are having people band with no explanations other "anything that is not eve shall invoke a banhammer if we feel like it".

What is going to be changed next, because of a vocal minority that want everything to be perfectly "fair". Fixed screen resolution? no multiboxing at all?

In the mean time the power of two advertising continues.

you know there are only a couple of combinations to train skills in right?

int/mem=armor,rigging,astrometics,shields, target management, electronics, engineering(expect WU&AWU), neural enhancement.
per/will= t1 spaceships, gunnery (WU&AWU )
will/per= t2 ship types
mem/per=drones

Things that normally don't require a full remap for are navigation( int/per) social (char/int) navigation can be done at the same time when int is your primary to get the most benefit .
Are the basic ones for pvp and shooting red crosses.

the profile can only be changed once a year unless there are bonus remaps available. And the greatest training time will always be when you have maxed a primary and secondary vs spreading them around. As if you spread them around you gain in the short term to hurt yourself in the long term.

It's envy. I'm not playing space barbie until I get a proper hat.

That looked like a Dev response rather than a GM. Reposting it might be naughty and they might tell him off, but it's upto them how they enforce the EULA. Strictly speaking, if they were going to enforce the EULA literally we'd all be ballgagged for obscenity. They'd also have to ballgag half of the staff.


Maybe they are scared of engaging in a public debate with angry multiboxers where they might accidentally slip up and show their true feelings by referring to you as those-peasants-everyone-hates-but-we-need-to-keep-the-lights-on.
Maybe they really love you and would prefer to keep it a dirty secret.
Maybe they just find this thread hilarious, and keep doing the face.
Maybe they are in the pub.

You might not use EFT, but your friends might. And others sure as heck do use it, so stop trying to dismiss it outright.
EVEMon allows a player who hasn't memorized what each skill's attributes are, plug in a ship or a fit that he wants to fly, hit "optimize remap", and it'll tell him how to get the most SP / hour possible, giving him a distinct advantage over someone who does not use such a program and just "eyeballs" it.


Neither did ISBoxer, according to CCP's interpretation of 6A3 being on a per-character basis, and not a per-human being basis. No doubt whichever CCP or CSM that wanted "one account online per person" will re-interpret that to ban multiple EVE instances per IP/MAC address or per computer, and when that day happens, I will be sitting front row center with a bucket of popcorn and a cellphone, calling up everyone who ever said "hurrdurr it's not a slippery slope" and saying "I told you so". AFAICT, they haven't changed their interpretation of 6A3, but I may be wrong. In which case, "I told you so."

You could just refer to the OP. This threadnaught is people attempting to contradict it and find workarounds, then having hysterics when random botters get banned. The muttering on their internal botscrub forums (which anyone can view) is even more amusing.

There is a free player made app here which can be used to support multiple clients. Apparently FoxFour is a perverted multiboxer too. You should all harangue this person at SausageFest.


Shouldn't you be taking that up with the ISaBotter owners? You're paying them for the product, after all.

I'm currently paying for 32 via plex, which actually earns CCP more money. Normally I average 40-60. Guess I just 'elevated' myself above you by wiggling my digits, no addons required.

Can I ask a genuine question though?

My gameplay has been nerfed repeatedly over the time I've played, and with regard to farming it is a concern because I'd rather earn it than pay to play (scruffy student). With as little effort as possible, because PVE is disgusting. My chosen farming method is about to get hit - probably nuked, if I'm honest. The rationale looks solid to me, I really can't protest it from such an obviously selfish position when the wider benefits are blatantly obvious. The change will benefit more players than me (I tend to see this fairly simplistically). So.. I look at it for a while, mutter, grumble, whine (mainly at myself for not ditching the project sooner).... then start considering new options. Simple as that. It's done, it was good for a while, I abused it while I could - but there are plenty of other avenues to grub about in.

What are your new options?

What you guys in here have been saying for a lot of this thread is that you utterly refuse to give up automated farming. You could take the easy route, and go to another game. You could take the harder route and adjust your gameplay to stay in 'The Game' as Peligro put it. Bless, I really liked that film. Or you could whinge bitterly about how you were treated, campaign badly and make yourselves look like a group of complete imbeciles who should be banned for humanitarian reasons. All you've done here is ensure that multiboxers who feel entitled to special treatment should be backhanded, everywhere.

You raise a good point that the nuances may be missed by non-English speakers in all fairness. But if you are German that's an established community with a lot of people who can translate. The native English speakers here are playing with semantics, pretty badly.

If you haven't been banned and you are following the new rules, don't worry about it. IF you get hit with a ban, then squawk.

Again, a good point. But you need to cite these claims (even if they are in German).
The language barrier doesn't mean you are stupid, if anything, the opposite.
In which case you should be able to judge the spirit of rulings - and they shouldn't utterly destroy your game. Unless it hinges upon a specific mechanic or tool you cannot play without.

Well no, ofc, but it's still amusing