EVE General Discussion

Personally, if EVE makes the changes that would be necessary to appeal to a larger segment of the gaming population, at the cost of the "hardcore" players it has now, I would stay.

Frankencomputer is what I have linked in my sig as mk III.

Of course we must never forget the doctrine of isk on field. Because you gotta make the isk, deploy it, and nothing makes it easier than having numbers.

I would like to Clarify that in no way do I use any form of anything to control the 5 accounts I have, but I would like to point out the legality aspect of this. The only way CCP could be finding out what somebody is using on there on personal computer is to be gathering information out side of the scope of the game. This means running some sort of Trojan horse program or a Bot of there on. it would have to gather software and hardware information with out the owner of the computer first being able to decide if they will allow this. this is know has "planting the worm" or flat out hacking our system.

The truth is do you really have a right to dictate to paying customers what software we run on our personal computers, And is gathering information from our computers even legal? So I ask out of concern of Privacy How exactly do you intend to determine what if any software you are running. to find out who is using software or hardware that is in no way actually connected to the game, as these will run on personal computers. I will be keeping a close Eye on what information is being received and sent to any CCP related system. I don't care about the use of programs or hardware to control accounts. My only concern is for my Privacy and those of my family who also might use the computers I use to play Eve.

I eagerly await CCP response to my quarry.

Since CCP isn't responding to this thread anymore, I'll just drop this section of the EVE Online EULA here.



Always read the EULA before buying a new game. It's been in the EULA for years.

Santa didn't bring a new iphone for you?

How about you come and shoot me in the head (ingame) and we can stay on topic. Do you ahve anything to add to the point or are you just testposting?

is this the twilight zone?


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yeah, I'm about to add 4 conventional 23" 1080p

And soon enough they'll be banned if they use it

Engaging in a fallacy of fallacies while deflecting. How cute.

Only fallacy I can find is possibly grouping every "casual" MMO player into a small subset. But then again, that's what most of EVE's players are. In every other MMO / MMORPG I can think of, no other world is like EVE. Every other MMO, you run into town, grab a quest, run out, complete it, come home, and you basically roleplay as a hero. In WoW for example, you kill monsters and bosses such as The Lich King and Galleon day in and day out. You're a hero, sure, but you don't forge your own destiny (excuse the movie cliche) like you do in EVE. You can't take over entire regions and hold them, harvesting resources and fighting for survival. If you die in WoW, you respawn and start again with little to no loss of actual *things* other than potions and food you consumed in the fight. If you die in EVE, not even counting being podded, that ship is gone, and you can't just click a button and pop it back into existence, ready to continue the fight. That ship cost time and effort to mine and construct, and ISK to produce and purchase it off the market or in a contract.

EVE right now is the only MMO that allows players to play the bandits, the pirates, the scammers. In WoW (sorry I'm using it so much. I have a friend who played and we've talked about the differences a lot), scams are not allowed, and severe punishment is handed out. You cannot play the bandit or pirate, raider of towns/cities/stations/systems, except in carefully pre-generated battlefields with linear story-lines. Sure, there are PVP maps and a gladiator arena, but the PVP map is nothing more than a scripted siege of a city. I will grant that the new dojos are coming, and I posted a similar idea on the F&I forum a while ago, which is where I found some of the ideas about balancing the more-common forms of ISBoxing in EVE. That was well before I was a multiboxer, FYI, but I'm sure you'll still accuse me of having a vested interest in defending ISBoxing.

I don't want to see this game turned into another WoW/LOTRO/DDO/GW2 clone. I play EVE because it's different than the others, because I can influence the map if I wanted, because players make a difference in the world of EVE. If you can't see why others are glad that this isn't WoW with no lasting consequences for mistakes (Asakai) or luck (hacking minigames, officer spawns) or perseverance (BRAVE), then I'm sorry.

It's Multiple (Broadcasted) gratification

RE: Adrie

Ok, I'll disagree with that point, since EVE is already what it is with a mix of F2P and P2P, and I think adding more players would mean more revenue. In other words, if it's likely true, it's also true right now, and even by percentages, more players means more revenue.

So. Why they would do such a thing is revenue, which they would gain.

My second main issue with your statement is the presumption that making EVE not-clunky means appeasing childish, selfish behavior, and also that you said it.

I'm not concerned with things like people's personalities, and I think it's a waste of time and words to be judge players when the goal is whether they have enough fun to pay money.

And Nolak, I don't know where you got the prompts for all those words. If it's in response to my comment to Adrie, I'll need each paragraph summarized with their main statements and conclusions (per paragraph). Reading that post feels like wading through knee-high water.