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Update regarding Multiboxing and input automation

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Bisu Deckryder
Definitely Not Cloaked LLC
#261 - 2014-11-25 17:40:40 UTC
Not Primary Disengage wrote:
this is a mistake. i would not have resubscribed if I knew this would be restricted.

No other MMO restricts this and no other MMO is as well suited towards it as EVE.

Perhaps fixing your game is the solution and not banning activities that exploit its flaws.

Disappointing how Devs can make a complete 180.


Please refund my accounts.



Well then, go back to wow.
Budsin Adar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#262 - 2014-11-25 17:41:44 UTC
My Question is okay multi boxing is okay!! i can understand that now the ones that are allowing it as bots instead of banning them which makes sense to all of us. My question is when they do that why can't we shoot them and keep the ships or loot just have them show also as an NPC free kills they would get the hint and have to start over when there pods are floating in space.. we all could use the practice Right guys and gals? Big smilePirate not being a care bare on this but it would be fun and give others points shoot for the lulz and others grab the ore we all could use it thanks fly safe or freely everyone o7
Sarah Shadow
Lotus Industrial Collective
Goonswarm Federation
#263 - 2014-11-25 17:42:02 UTC
I would really like a refund on the guys ive had training for a month and just got moved into null.

Tad frustrating that this is the material change in the EULA they made.
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#264 - 2014-11-25 17:42:38 UTC
Skippy Peanut wrote:
will this guy with accounts called "replicator00xx" be an example to be banned ?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/smp1j3m6bh41jf1/Replicator00%202014.08.23.22.38.44.png?dl=0

replicator00

o/


he already posted in this thread that he will find other uses for his 32 accounts. :)
Alexa Machavela
KarmaFleet University
#265 - 2014-11-25 17:44:24 UTC
Capri Sun KraftFoods wrote:
As someone who actually ISBox's bombers I'm a little upset.

The problem isn't ISBoxer. The problem is that bombs as they currently stand are completely broken Sure isboxer exacerbates the problem significantly, but you can still get 30 dudes into a fleet easily and go kill anything with 4 waves that isn't a T3 or a faction battleship. I'd be happy to see my bomber accounts become useless and de-sub them if it meant I didn't have to worry about getting hell bombed every other fleet.


So, let me get this straight. You're upset because you don't have 29 friends to go out on bomber runs with you and you're blaming said lack of friends on bomber mechanics? Most people rely on their personality for acquiring friends, but not you clearly. Perhaps you should reevaluate your problem, as I think the people with friends have already found that relying on personality, and not bomber mechanics, is a much better solution.

So long, and thanks for all the isk.
Laughable Xhosa Girl
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#266 - 2014-11-25 17:44:31 UTC
YOU HAVE BEEN FREED FROM THE SHACKLES OF PLAYING EVE
Ransu Asanari
Perkone
Caldari State
#267 - 2014-11-25 17:44:46 UTC
I support this change and/or tear-generating feature.
Jur Grady
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#268 - 2014-11-25 17:45:23 UTC
Not Primary Disengage wrote:
this is a mistake. i would not have resubscribed if I knew this would be restricted.

No other MMO restricts this and no other MMO is as well suited towards it as EVE.

Perhaps fixing your game is the solution and not banning activities that exploit its flaws.

Disappointing how Devs can make a complete 180.


Please refund my accounts.


I would also point out that they are fixing the game they are closing this loophole you have been using to ISbox. Also you admit to exploiting the game in a post on their forums sounds like a good plan.
Bisu Deckryder
Definitely Not Cloaked LLC
#269 - 2014-11-25 17:46:18 UTC
Sarah Shadow wrote:
I would really like a refund on the guys ive had training for a month and just got moved into null.

Tad frustrating that this is the material change in the EULA they made.

Renter tears, its glorious. Maybe just learn to alt tab?

In Seagull we trust.
Anslo
Scope Works
#270 - 2014-11-25 17:46:25 UTC
QUEUE THE 1812 OVERTURE

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
#271 - 2014-11-25 17:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Radkiel wrote:
You didn't adapt, *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
. Anti-multi-boxers are all the same, they see something they can't or won't do, so it must be stopped. I really excepted a much more mature community in EvE but reading this thread reminds me of the WoW forums. Enjoy your shrinking community Ancy, you earned!

*cackle*

That's cute, botboy. But yes, I will thoroughly enjoy my more active and participating community without the likes of you, thank you very much! ^_^

"Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."

"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#272 - 2014-11-25 17:47:29 UTC
Jur Grady wrote:
Not Primary Disengage wrote:
this is a mistake. i would not have resubscribed if I knew this would be restricted.

No other MMO restricts this and no other MMO is as well suited towards it as EVE.

Perhaps fixing your game is the solution and not banning activities that exploit its flaws.

Disappointing how Devs can make a complete 180.


Please refund my accounts.


I would also point out that they are fixing the game they are closing this loophole you have been using to ISbox. Also you admit to exploiting the game in a post on their forums sounds like a good plan.

To be fair, they are instituting a grace period whereupon anyone who mulitplexes inputs is not banned.

This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Aiyshimin
Shiva Furnace
#273 - 2014-11-25 17:47:53 UTC
Sarah Shadow wrote:
I would really like a refund on the guys ive had training for a month and just got moved into null.

Tad frustrating that this is the material change in the EULA they made.


Why? This change doesn't affect your characters in any way.
Literally Space Moses
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#274 - 2014-11-25 17:48:11 UTC
Luscius Uta wrote:
As a fan of replicator, I'm genuienely saddened by this :(
I think it's pretty easy to figure out who pushed forward this change as replicator's bombers caused more Goon losses than entire 0.0 alliances
But I still think CCP shot themselves in a foot with this decision as it will cause a big drop in active subsciptions


Uhh, Replicator works for the CFC. Like, he's on our side, sorry.

#T2013
Pivke Anneto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#275 - 2014-11-25 17:48:22 UTC
this is just full of awesomeness :D

BEFORE YOU PEOPLE START UNSUBSCRIBING!

i would like to buy:
-one scuicide ganking character (catalyst&talos trained)
-one perfect miner (all T2 crystals and stuff)

FOR VERY CHEAP!

i will post in character bazaar forum soon, so you can start undercutting each other :)
its your chance to make a little bit of ISK on character you wont use any more!
Michael Ignis Archangel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#276 - 2014-11-25 17:48:26 UTC
Personally, I like this, and I use ISboxer. Yes, I'll have to cycle through screens to launch and recall drones, take gates, set up cap chains, etc. now - but for the sake of the game's health it's a great trade. I'll still keep the program for the tiling and window-switching alone.

At the end of the day, if you have too many accounts to make this feasible, you have too many accounts. I believe there should be a cost to controlling an additional account.

Thanks for the clarification, I think this will help the game a great deal. Something felt funny about bomber/ganking fleets of 10+ controlled by a single person.

And if this is the precursor to some more-interactive form of mining, well, I might actually go back to doing it more often!
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#277 - 2014-11-25 17:48:38 UTC
Fluoroantimonicacid wrote:
Galmas wrote:
This has potential to become the second best expansion since w-space. The best part about it is that basically nothing can go wrong since not a single line of code will have to be changed!



challenge accepted

-Replicator

note: it only takes a few bombers to cap out a w space cap escalation carrier, and I can easily do this if you triage in a site, also with 32 accts, lets say I put 8 in each WH... I can have 12 C5 holes permanently camped with 8 bombers each.


Sorry mate, we only use triage carriers for pvp.
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#278 - 2014-11-25 17:49:52 UTC
The thing that makes me laugh are the ISBoxer users asking for refunds.

They have paid for subscription time, and been given that time. CCP was under no obligation to 'garauntee' to customers that their intentions for the characters use would still be applicable in the future. CCP didn't explicitely state that my training for a sentry drone Dominix for PVP last year would be a garaunteed OK and my 'playstyle' wouldn't get nerfed.

These characters could all be retrained into market alts, scouts, fleet boosters, or heavens forbid the ISboxers could just manually operate them, but no. Instead they demand a refund when they have recieved exactly what CCP promised them. A set amount of time to play in the sandbox. Please take your entitled attitude elsewhere.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Ancy Denaries
Frontier Venture
#279 - 2014-11-25 17:49:54 UTC
XXXMina wrote:
this is not right, you cant change the rules after 10 years, i got 5 accounts because it made sense with how the game is. now i cant use what little automation i take advantage of (just pressing the f keys ) . also jump fatigue and jump range change suxx: this is a space sim, way to clip our wings.


PS: im unsubbing all my accounts . you have till my 3 month sub runs out to fix this game.

Cry moar? "You can't". Err, they very much can. It's their game. Their rules.

"Shoot at anything that moves. If it doesn't move, shoot it anyway, it might move later."

"Do not be too positive. The light at the end of the tunnel could be a train." - Franz Kafka
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#280 - 2014-11-25 17:50:43 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
SheShell wrote:
subsciptions will have dropped a lot by the end of this month


no, probably not even one if they are all financed from buying plex in Jita.
Play the Game, You never know you may find the game fun, After all you cannot roll naked in a mountain of isk.

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