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Crucible, Best Expansion Ever?

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Xanos Blackpaw
Azure Consortium
#1 - 2011-11-28 09:46:58 UTC
Its not quite out yet, but from what i have heard and seen so far this expansion is going up as Best Expansion Ever to me.

Who is with me?!
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
#2 - 2011-11-28 09:50:37 UTC
Despite all the incoming awesome, Crucible still doesn't hold a candle to Revelations and Trinity.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#3 - 2011-11-28 09:56:18 UTC
Let's wait until it hits the server, before giving these accolades.

My bet: Best since spring 09.

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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#4 - 2011-11-28 09:59:25 UTC
Quantum Rise with the great speed nerf did tons more for balance and variety than Crutch will .. most of what has been announced is cosmetic in nature with a few long overdue tweaks thrown in.
The tier3 BCs are added because CCP need to close the book on the art competition fiasco and because they would never be able to sell it as an "expansion" with just UI, graphical and a few balance tweaks.

Unless they pull a life-threateningly obese rabbit out in the 11th hour Crutch will probably go down as one of the most hollow albeit desired patches - pardon me, expansions - in history. The biggest thing about it is that it represents CCP's acknowledgement of FiS being the ever important foundation upon which everything must rest.
Tore Vest
#5 - 2011-11-28 09:59:52 UTC
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#6 - 2011-11-28 10:07:33 UTC
Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque.

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Liam Mirren
#7 - 2011-11-28 10:12:40 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque.


This is very much true. Having said that the vast majority of players have been chiming for an "iteration expansion" for a long while now, so if CCP manages to do exactly that we can't then say "meh, no new stuff, sucks".

To me this expansion very much depends on the hybrids rebalancing, if they manage to make them viable I'll be very happy. So far though, what we've seen on Sisi, this is not the case and in fact they gave Minmatar some more boosts compared to Gallente.

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Alara IonStorm
#8 - 2011-11-28 10:15:56 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque.

I was so sure this would be another Apocrypha.

I like that this expansion has some good stuff in it but I wish it was an Apocrypha.

Sad
Jack Sparroxx
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-11-28 10:18:22 UTC
Crucible is hardly anything I'd call an "expansion". IMO the only new real thing they have added to to game is the tier 3 BC's. So can Crucible be called the best ever expansion ever since it's not really an expansion, F*** no.

However CCP is buffing, tweaking alot of things in the game, and I give them massive props for gitting their heads out of thier asses. And there is PLENTY more stuff to do to tweak allready implemented stuff in EVE. And lets be honest, CCP havn't tuched the core isues of game mechanics and content at all(null sec, low sec, FW etc etc.) BUT Crucible and with the added attitude change from CCP, that definately bought CCP enough time for a massive overhaul in the "expansion" coming after the Crucible.

Keep it up CCP, I have hopes in you again, and dont slack off.

And I think CCP is going to have a hard time beating Red Moon rising, Trinity and Apocrypha. Though I'd like them to give it a tryPirate
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#10 - 2011-11-28 10:35:35 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque.


They stated that before the jita protests/unsub autumn scared the holy bejesus out of Hilmar and the accounts department.

After having seen what the players "do" (rather than what they "say when unhappy) I fully expect Apocrypha scale expansions to be back on the table because frankly - unless CCP commit to this kind of development on the core game then they will end up with no money for anything else regardless.

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Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#11 - 2011-11-28 10:38:44 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Apocrypha, in my eyes, is EVE's greatest expansion. I shudder to think where the game would be today without it. But like being saved by Spider-Man, everybody gets one; CCP has already stated that they will never again do anything Apocryphaesque.

I was so sure this would be another Apocrypha.

I like that this expansion has some good stuff in it but I wish it was an Apocrypha.

Sad



Crucible is a tournequet patch on the sucking chest wound that was NeXCarna and a neccessary step in saving Eve from bleeding out in a dark ally.

The importance of this patch is not really its feature set but the demonstration that CCP have listened to what we the players "do" (when we're unhappy) and have committed to return to proper development and support of Eve Online.

Now the future needs to hold several Apocrypha scale expansions at 6 month intervals to return Eve Online to subscriber growth and get things back to where they were before the :18 months: of MT/NeX/Sellout insanity.

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Captain Octanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2011-11-28 11:01:27 UTC
i cant wait for the new nebulae to come out! They look awesome- something to gaze at while mining/ratting
Revajin
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-11-28 11:05:30 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
After having seen what the players "do" (rather than what they "say


Are people still butthurt about that quote? Because honestly I never understood why.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#14 - 2011-11-28 11:06:37 UTC
Revajin wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
After having seen what the players "do" (rather than what they "say


Are people still butthurt about that quote? Because honestly I never understood why.


I'm not sure its "butthurt" really. Was just a challenge that got accepted Cool

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#15 - 2011-11-28 11:34:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Akrasjel Lanate
Apocrypha Twisted

I didn't play before it so can't say if there was beter one pefore it. Roll

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-28 11:35:14 UTC
Best expansion since I started playing Oops
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2011-11-28 12:02:27 UTC
Apocrypha will probably end up being better, from an expansion standpoint. However, Crucible will most likely be the most surprising expansion with the most “wow, neat!”-factor in a very long time.

But then again, this expansions is all about annoyances, rather than about real content (although we're getting some of that as well), that It's somehow not on the same scale — comparing the two would kind of miss the point.

So, best? No.
Most satisfying? Quite possibly, yes.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#18 - 2011-11-28 13:28:39 UTC
Cruicible will shut up all those people asking for a bug fix expansion for one whole expansion.

They'll go back to whining about needing another bug fix expansion quickly enough though.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#19 - 2011-11-28 13:52:13 UTC
RMR.

Will tomorrow change that...?

/c

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Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-11-28 13:56:34 UTC
Chribba wrote:
RMR.

Will tomorrow change that...?

/c



This was RMR



Apocrypha is still the expansion that all others are compared to.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.

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