Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Since the both of you are industrialists, may I point you to the ORE Industrial skillbook which unlock the Noctis ship?

This is the boat you were looking for.

Also, fly Amarr. Use lasers. No ammo. Better damage.

I think the ammo bay for combat ships is a good idea. It makes sense. The Minmatar Hoarder is a hauler with an ammo bay, even though it isn't a combat ship. Why shouldn't combat ships have them as well?

Exactly this. If CCP added on space for a ammo bay without reducing main cargo bay, it's a buff to everyone who uses large amounts of ammo/cap boosters.

If CCP adds on space while reducing the cargobay to compensate, it nerfs all ships that DONT use tons of charges, especially ships that may swap out modules frequently like scanners, carry extra drones + depots (most ships should do this is you have spare space), or fill their cargo with things like LO for cyno fuel, or bombers stuffing spare cargohold with LO and topes for black ops. In general it reduces the tactical loadouts that you can bring along, by taking part of the ships cargohold and saying "ammo only here".


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Has anyone tried using the new T2 Deep Space Transport with the docking bay for five ships?

I figure this would be the perfect ship to take along for looting missions. Shoot the rats in a PVE ship. Warp to transport. Take out Noctis. Salvage. Warp to transport. Drop loot. If a mission ganker warps in, switch your PVE ship for a PVP ship. There is room for five fitted ships inside, which means a PVP and PVE ship for two people, as well as one industrial (i,e. Noctis). These ships can also be refit inside the bay. They don't take up cargo space either.

Orcas would work well for this too. Apparently Orcas are tanky enough to solo some Level 4 missions.

There are deployables you can use now as well. Before there were deployables, people use to anchor Giant secure containers for storing ammo and loot.

However, lasers don't use ammo. The tech 1 crystals last forever. Whenever I hear someone complaining about carrying ammunition in their cargo, I tell them to cross-train into Amarr ships.

Even from a lore perspective, a Minmatar loyalist would likely know how to fly Amarr ships if (s)he 'stole it' from the Amarrian slave owner.

wonderful, a new way to nerf combat ships... Seriously do you remember the trouble we suddenly had with some ships after they added fuel bays.. with not being able to hold enough fuel for a round trip? just let it draw from a large cargo bay.. because it is not going to turn out well if it gets divided off.

Drones, my son! DRONES!!

They have already their own hold.

all this would do is limit you since cargo sized is balanced they would just remove space from your regular bay and make it so only charges could be placed there not give you more space

Please, you run missions. It's not like you can't simply look at the other and say, "oops, I need to get more ammo, way here for a minute while I go get more," then have to jump [I]maybe]/I] one system over and reload.

Note, I ran missions for years with Caldari boats, and not once did I ever have an issue of not enough ammo or enough hold space for loot. Running the mission and looting the mission are two separate activities.

I think the best idea is to enable partitions within your cargo hold... no ajustments of current sizes just the ability to separate as I think this would save a lot of time when emptying cargo at station whilst maintaining the fittings, ammo and alike that you want to keep onboard

That I get.

So why not change the mobile depot so that you can put your subsystem and modules in the depot and carry that depot with you but only have access to the stuff inside it when you online it in space?

You would have to wait a minute before it is anchored in space to use the fitting service so why not restrict the same for the access to the cargohold of the depot until it is online?

Ohh okay while writing I can see how that can become problematic, so in addition to the cargohold access, you can only scoop reinforced depots that are empty or they ( the reinforced depots) would drop a can with your stuff inside.