EVE General Discussion

Unless you find a really quiet system, you will probably loose ISK/hr warping in and out etc. There isn't a major difference in earning from low to hi sec ores.

You can do a quick check of market value per m3 of high vs. null ores and verify this to be true for yourself.


Surprising, isn't it?

If only they can leverage the Rorqual changes to make low/null/wh mining more possible.... like a warp core stabilizing field or some sort of other defensive capabilities

Yeah. I've quickly found out that for all purpose manufacture (read: for mineral self-consumption) it's actually better to throw loot items to the grinder, at a salvage loss, and just stockpile the minerals. No asteroid will be harmed in the process!

Of course this implies doing missions, as opposed to mining killmails, but no doubt everyone can tell which is better!

This.

The major issue that hasn't been mentioned yet is the additional risk and cost involved in getting your ore (or minerals) to market. In highsec you can haul your ore via tanky orca to a trade hub in relative safety in 5 to 10 minutes, or pay a useful idiot to do it for you. In lowsec, you need to scout a safe path and you are probably spending 20-30 minutes getting the Orca or freighter out to a hub and a higher risk of losing it.

Ugh. Think out of the box for a little.

First of all, let's disregard the danger for a little bit, for arguments sake. What are the advantages of mining in lowsec? I'm not an authority on the subject, but as far as I know there's two things lowsec miners gun for: the mining anomalies yield special ores and belts contain many of those 10% extra yield rocks. The lowsec miners I know don't haul their ore to hisec but reprocess it in the same station used for lowsec mission access (because of NPC standings) and produce locally. Why drag resources all the way to hisec when you can produce high-value pirate ships locally? Frigs and cruisers don't take much resources or logistics, Battleships a bit more.

Now, let's add some danger. This is lowsec after all. There are many ways to deal with it. Obviously mining 1 jump from hisec is a no-go, you want to be in deeper lowsec, preferably a spot not on any route between various PVP hotspots. Perhaps you will get lucky today and get a few hours of undisturned mining off as a solo miner. However, when you already have a name for say, opening cynos and hotdropping suspect station campers and would-be gankers, things change. You will still lose a ship from time to time however, loss is an unchanging constant for all of us.

In my experience a "lowsec miner" is incomparable to hisec folk, as in his PVE is done non-AFK and is only a part of his gameplay, a means to an end. If your intent is raw ISK making from selling ore/minerals then indeed, stay in hisec. If you want to hunt down pirates for their ship BPCs (DED sites, Mordus rats), have other industrial aspirations tied to lowsec stuff, or plainly enjoy baiting for PVP then by all means give it a try. Ask yourself this... do you think getting a T3 kill with your group is worth a bait Procurer?

first, you need to be consistent in your discussion. 0.0 (null sec) and lo-sec are two totally different animals.

0.0 is profitable, and safe, if you're in owned space and you're the owner.

Lo-sec can never be owned, but you will be, unless you're ready to have stop start mining non-stop, and loose several ships a week regardless of how careful you are. NB there is more value in lo-sec ... but it's slightly exponential. ie:

SpaceReward Factor
Hi-Sec x1
Low-Sec x3
0.0 x9


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