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Diablo spellbooks
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-11-22 09:34:30 UTC
Remember how your Diablo character could improve a spell by finding the spellbook, after reaching a certain level?

I think EVE should be like that. Every ten million SP increases the skillbook cap. In this new skill model, SP accumulates at a set rate, but provides no benefit other than allowing the use of more skillbooks.

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-11-22 10:03:36 UTC
Sooo instead of specializing to a certain task everyone would be locked out of shiny stuff until they've played for X amount of years and unlocked Y amount of SP?

If that didn't sound stupid to you then I'll help with a "No".
The Hamilton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-11-22 11:20:08 UTC
What's wrong with skill books now to warrant this change?
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-11-22 11:34:29 UTC
well, firstly they're books, so they have that mechanic in common. I just think the Diablo spellbook way of leveling is a more appropriate way to reward players who stay subbed. currently, a character can be skilled to a basic level very quickly, and that doesn't preserve any meaning for older players who take the time to skill things thoroughly.

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
The Hamilton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-11-22 11:47:19 UTC
I think EVE should be proud that a new player can skill to the basic necessities to be effective quickly. I do on the other hand think the truly old players need some new skills to learn however.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#6 - 2014-11-22 12:10:03 UTC
The Hamilton wrote:
I think EVE should be proud that a new player can skill to the basic necessities to be effective quickly. I do on the other hand think the truly old players need some new skills to learn however.


100% behind this it's gotten to the point that I just train skills on my older accounts just to keep the queue going.

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#7 - 2014-11-22 12:12:56 UTC
Can we go dungeon grinding together? I need more magical modules to dump in to my cube so I can hopefully roll a +20 officer smartbomb

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-11-22 13:31:29 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
well, firstly they're books, so they have that mechanic in common. I just think the Diablo spellbook way of leveling is a more appropriate way to reward players who stay subbed. currently, a character can be skilled to a basic level very quickly, and that doesn't preserve any meaning for older players who take the time to skill things thoroughly.




Only for the bitters who forgot where they came from and were those low sp players at some point, They were the bare minimum skill level to get out the the station to go find fun ways to make people blow up or blow up themselves in the process.

Lessons learned in these early flights probably laid that groundwork for the players they are today.

And they sure as hell weren't complaining about lack of special skill books back then. They wanted same access as the bitters of yesteryear.

These people would be hypocritical idiots, not my top choice of crew to pander too tbh. Probably not ccp's either.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#9 - 2014-11-22 16:19:15 UTC
nope

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2014-11-22 16:50:15 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Every ten million SP increases the skillbook cap. In this new skill model, SP accumulates at a set rate, but provides no benefit other than allowing the use of more skillbooks.

Waitwaitwaitwait...

What?

There is no cap on the number of skillbooks you can have injected... except for those you do not have the prerequisites trained for.

How did you Veterans start?
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#11 - 2014-11-22 16:53:37 UTC
No.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-11-22 17:25:47 UTC
Did I just wander into the wrong forum? And does this thread dismriminate against me as I never played Diablo? :D
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-11-22 18:08:14 UTC
g bak 2 diablo?
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-11-22 19:28:50 UTC
but those Diablo books had such a satisfying "thump" when you interacted with them

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-11-22 20:02:19 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
but those Diablo books had such a satisfying "thump" when you interacted with them

Yeah the first hit is always free isn't it?

Is this a serious idea? Because this smells like it spent a lot of time under a bridge.
Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-11-22 20:10:39 UTC
Only if the Dominix can raise additional skeletons... Whoops I mean drones.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-11-22 22:34:14 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
but those Diablo books had such a satisfying "thump" when you interacted with them

Yeah the first hit is always free isn't it?

Is this a serious idea? Because this smells like it spent a lot of time under a bridge.


Clearly it didn't spend enough time under it as it's not washed up enough.
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#18 - 2014-11-22 22:41:37 UTC
errrr, what? a cap on the number of skillbooks that a noob can inject?
HELL NO

my main currently has 305 skills, 6-9 months ago - he had 295 - he's 5 years old, 4 subbed

a couple of my alts who are specializing have 106 and 135 respectively at about 11 and 20 months respectively

another couple of my alts who are incredibly specialist and have now stopped training have 30 and 45 respectively after a few months of training each (6 months was the longer char - who has 30 skills)

my main about 3 years ago had probably 180 odd skills,
when he'd been training less time than the older specializing alt.....

therefore your plan hurts new-bros far more than old-bros

that is why - NO, -1 from me

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#19 - 2014-11-22 22:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
Implants to some degree are a similar kind of mechanic (a little bit convoluted).
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#20 - 2014-11-23 00:47:47 UTC
No, all it does is shift the purchase of the skill book from the beginning of accumulating points to the end so very little would change.

No, you should decide what you are going to train and the train that, not accumulate points that you can apply however you desire.

No, because this idea does not account for the greater training speed that ISK spent on implants and / or a proper remap can provide.

Rain6637 wrote:
I just think the Diablo spellbook way of leveling is a more appropriate way to reward players who stay subbed.

Accounts that are not subbed do not train skills, they go into stasis until the account is subbed again. There is however a short grace period allowed to account for life and other thing that could delay you paying your fees or using the plex.
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